Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

Spell it out, what are you actually trying to say?

Be clear now, please.

& what would be France's response? and/or the EU's response?

There would be at the very least, economic consequences & possibly military ones when we try your suggestion.

Why do you think that?

Wjag fact, exactly, do you think will be covered up?

They're illegally entering a country, some with the intention of murdering its people

They should be treated like any invading army.

And if you actually cared about them you'd want this. Many of them die in accidental drownings every year. The Hiroshima bomb killed thousands but saved millions of lives.

Someone has to try and sort this absolute nightmare out and the fact that it’s a sinking ship and someone is willing to give it an actual try and do it is not really a cause for complaint.

Agree, why do people think it's an easy fix

You absolutely can make knives that are not pointed on the end. Idris Elba and the Lets Be Blunt campaign have been pushing for this for some time.

The cause of terrorism? Lax immigration policy and allowing people to immigrate that they absolutely should not.

Why? Why are they not afraid of what is happening and will continue to get worse if something isn’t done?
Why aren’t they concerned about poor British people (of all races) carrying the burden of the negative implications of uncontrolled immigration?

Why aren’t they more concerned about the bad thing rather than the reaction to the bad thing?

Wow! That’s some mental gymnastics for you!

Bottom line is there is an issue, anyone denying that is part of the problem. But it is very difficult to have a balanced conversation with people who get their information from social media, believe in Farage, think rioting is an appropriate response, think Yaxley Lennon is a man of the people, paint flags on roundabouts rather than volunteer, do litter picks etc to show they’re proud of being British / English.

Haven’t most of the UK’s terrorists been British born?

Shh don’t remind them of that !
they don’t want to hear it

Yep for Labour presumably. Madness.

@EasternStandard what does the above mean?

Fork found in kitchen.

British born to immigrant parents or grandparents.

I don't think you understand how injuries are caused in a knife attack.

This re-design wouldn't make any difference.

That would be a daft thing to say so soon after the event when very few of the relevant facts are available.

What an absolute shitshow it will be if, in the lead up to the budget, Starmer has to get rid of Reeves. It’s getting to look like a very unfunny black comedy. The Government are full of champagne socialists with their snouts in the trough.

Well, the 70' s and 80's were before 7/7 so that comparison didn't exist.

I wasn't comparing the number of deaths or incidents. I was remarking about how worried I was and comparing that to how worried I feel now.

I can distinctly remember going into central London and being scared that buildings would fall on me because I had seen bombed buildings on the news.

What on earth are you taking about?! Even Germany, of all places, have recently discussed leaving the EHRC. And it was treated as a completely normal and rational idea, not the hysteria you’re demonstrating.

Membership is entirely optional. No country is forced to join the Council of Europe or accept the European Court of Human Rights; they choose to do so, and can withdraw at any time.

@SpaceRaccoon yes, that makes it more complicated where there is an issue with second generation radicalisation

Screwdrivers will do the same damage.

My relative is an A&E doctor and she told me that many of the gangs in Liverpool are using knives and screwdrivers to stab their victims in an upwards motion in their groin area. The idea is to cause catastrophic harm (testicle/ penis removal, colostomy bag etc) but only be able to be charged with GBH.

@LeafyMcLeafFace I agree there is an issue but it works both ways, many sides of the argument lack balance.

Becsuse they said it was a terrorist incident. Just not what kind of terrorism. But we can guess.

If you are planning on pulling Britain out of the ECHR then I hope you aren’t fussed about the right to a fair trial for your children. I hope you aren’t bothered about continuing to have freedom of speech to say what you like, or freedom from discrimination for being female. They are all important ECHR rights.

what a stupid response to the situation!!

Are repeated attacks an "undercurrent "? Feels like its riding high on top of the water.