Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

It’s been reported an older man with gashes to his head and neck tried to protect a young girl who was being attacked 😭 this is simply dreadful. Normal people going about their business should not be in fear of being murdered. The attackers will get 3 square meals a day. Cost the tax payers millions and will always be a risk to our society. If they are immigrants we really need to speak up now collectively and say enough. People need properly vetting to enter this country. We need to know who they are and what they are about. I want my children to be safe they all get on trains regularly.
its reported they costs of illegally entering this country with no paperwork is £1000s but with the paperwork you can get on a wizz air flight for £50. People enter illegally so we don’t know who they are or where they are from. This has to stop

If Starmer was handed a ‘sinking ship’ then why did he take on the job?

Why did he promise to ‘smash the gangs’ ad nauseum?

Was he ‘mistaken’ or did he lie? Which is it?

WTAF! You're obviously a dedicated Islamaphobe to shoehorn this utter irrelevant and disrespectful nonsense into this thread. Zohran Mamdani is running for New York Mayor so how on earth is this relevant to a knife attack in the UK unless you are just on high alert for opportunities to bash innocent Muslims.

OK, thank you

1. redesign on kitchen knives to make safe versions that cannot be used as weapons and ONLY sell these, pretty sure someone has already designed this

You can't redesign a knife designed to cut dead raw meat so that it won't cut live raw meat.

When something is not working, what is the first thing you do?

You stop whatever it is that you are currently doing.

You then pause, reflect, and work up solutions.

The last thing you do is to carry on with whatever is not working.

Why on earth have you assumed the perpetrators are anything to do with illegal immigration? Nothing has been said about that anywhere.

Actually you can. You can redesign it so it won't cause as much injury in as quick a time/doesn't have a sharp point.

A quick google search...

What solutions? do you really think its this easy?

The lady that was killed by the asylum seeker was stabbed with a screwdriver. They will always find something to use.

I come from a ‘hotel’ village. When I grew up there, the immigrants were hard working and contributed like the rest of the adults. Most people went to work. It was a bit rough around the edges and working class, but a decent community.
I go back to visit a few times a year and the change is vast.
I was staying with family opposite the hotel during the protests and quite honestly, felt sorry for the mums. They just want a safe place for their kids to grow up. The hotel is next to a park and opposite a primary school.
This used to be an airport hotel that no-one envisaged would turn into a hotel full of immigrant men. I like to visit, but was grateful to get home to my safe place(for how long I don’t know.)
To the posters who are bending over backwards to call out the ‘racists’ some people are currently living in a community that doesn’t feel safe to them anymore - including immigrants with good intent.

People will use something else. There was the horrendous murder recently of Rhiannon Whyte, not with a knife.

FGS - a hatchet or other makeshift weapon can deliver similar injuries.

Have you ever seen a hatchet injury? I have - and they are truly dreadful - what they can do to tissue.

The fact that the police have not released the ethnicity of the perpetrators tells us all we need to know. They use a tactic of shouting from the rooftops if it’s a white British attacker. But the silence is always deafening - tumbleweed - when the suspects are none white. Problem being that it doesn’t help the situation, because people will then start to make assumptions, and that’s how riots start. The government are going to have to start getting a grip on this, and quickly. This sort of thing is now happening too frequently, the result of thinking that people choosing to came here to live love us and want to live amongst us, when quite often they’re fleeing after committing heinous crimes in their own countries, coming having ‘lost’ documents, and trying to escape trial and punishment in the country they’re escaping from. And here we are…..

I've just posted 10 possible solutions to aid the problems! Sure there are more! No solution is easy though. All will be ££££££

They’ll just use screwdrivers instead.

You’re focusing on the wrong aspect.

Listen.

You ask a lot of questions without providing answers yourself, so I will indulge you one more time.

No, but you need the space around you to make the correct decision i.e. when you are not under pressure, and the emotion and ‘noise’ has been mitigated.

The last thing you do is carry on regardless.

There aren't enough eyerolls for "redesign kitchen knives".
All you then need to do is go to aby DIY, gardening or agricultural shop and you'll find a plethora of implements that can inflict death and severe injury.

The root cause is not knives. Knives are inanimate objects. It's the hands they're in. Always men for a start, regardless of ethnicity/culture/background/religion. It takes far more critical analysis to look at root causes.

….. but we don’t have cultural cohesion … that is why we have a problem with extremism / terrorism ….

Yes but if the only knives that can cause major injury are illegal or homemade then that's less knives easily available to cause harm and then crack down on the illegal suppliers. Guns are easily available in America and looks how much gun crime they have. Knives are easily available in the UK....go figure. You've focused on one of my 10 possible solutions, do you agree with any of the rest?

And, btw, let’s hope that this mendacious government does not try to bury the ongoing Reeves scandal this week.

Disrespectful? No. Plausible, yes.

I trust that the DM will continue to chase it down.

Those are a niche product designed for extremely safety conscious households. You won't find a chef or a butcher deboning a pig carcass with one of those. Preparing food from scratch (as opposed to buying neatly filleted chicken, for example) often needs a pointed knife, you have to dig the point in to get a start point.

I think you'll also find thar many blade assaults are done with a machete, which is blunt, so even those aren't going to stop knife crime.

It’s blowing my mind how many posters are terrified of riots to the point they’re ok with knife attacks on trains and kids’ dance classes…