Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

there are absolutely zero confirmed reports of the attackers nationality, religion or immigration status. Yet so many on here are foaming at the mouth about immigrants and islamists

It's naive to assume people don't look at previous incidents to form judgement, it's human nature.

My First thought when I read the train was stopped at Huntingdon was that it probably originated from Peterborough. And the incident happened 10 minutes after Peterborough station. I used to live in Peterborough and it is not a good place now.

The silence says a lot perhaps they think we are stupid that they are keeping details quiet. We have a terrorism problem for a long time it’s just as much about lack of visible and effective policing as a deterrent.

Even if the police say this was not a terrorist attack or the perpetrators weren't immigrants, some people won't believe it. They will believe what is posted by bot accounts on SM or what the likes of Musk, Robinson or Farage say.

People drown and are suffocated in the boats and live in terrible conditions controlled by crime lords in the camps waiting to come over.

We need to build a new town the size of many British towns every year to house the 50,000 people coming over in boats.

If claims are processed in days, more people will come. Can you please put a figure on how many of the tens of millions of people around the world who would prefer to live in this country than their own who you would invite to live here? Every gay person in a country where homosexuality is illegal? Every person whose own country is war torn? Every person escaping poverty? Every person displaced by climate change? How many???

Of course we need to stop the boats!

What a racist and ignorant comment. Why are you hoping for it to be a white man ?

Farage will tell the truth. He does encourage racism, but there is no reason at all to suggest that he will lie about this.

Don't gangs usually stab other gang members not innocent, random train passengers?

Innocent people are stabbed by gangs but mass stabbing of innocents is not the norm, can't think of any examples.

There was a good article in the latest Critic pointing out that a lot of the civil service and judiciary involved in dealing with asylum claims have a background in the NGO merry go round, and actively seek roles to promote those agendas from inside. Not a million miles away from Stonewall style capture.

i do think this current government are doing more than any previous one though. Able bodied men should automatically be deprioritised, and it should be a 14 day turnaround - no ifs or buts.

If you were born the 80's then you didn't really experience the fear of IRA attacks in the 70's and 80's, did you?

the root cause here is knives. We make such a big deal of not being like the US with shootings yet we have a knife problem that’s just as bad. I don’t know how it would be dealt with but it needs to be and we need to have the police out there protecting the public in real time

Speculation could be stopped easily if the police released a statement about the people responsible for the attack. The silence is deafening.

Absolutely bang on.

France, where many of them came from.

They have said they will make a statement soon.

This! I don’t understand why the government are spending hundreds of millions moving people around the country from army barracks to hotels to whatever.
spend that money on staff to clear the backlog of claims.

Genuine question: have the announced details of the people who were arrested? People seem to know who it was but I can’t see anything

Most refugees end up in their neighbouring countries. Easy enough to find out!

No. Just the usual speculation in the cesspit that is X.

Do you prefer Bluesky?

If so, why?

We're talking about boat people in this country?

I agree, reform would be a catastrophe as they have no useful policies on anything else or idea how to run a government. But that's what's coming unless action is taken by the present government on this issue which affects us all. Of course there is empathy for the victims, in could have been any of us and my prayers and thoughts to them and their families, I hope they all pull through and are able to find some peace from the mental trauma this incident will have caused, let alone the physical. The man who tried to protect the girl is nothing short of a hero and the sort of spirit which has previously made us proud to be British. But empathy alone will not protect more people from being hurt. This isn't the first nor the last time it will happen. Decisive action to prevent this is what is needed.

1. harsher sentencing on knife possession and illegal weapon distributers.
2. greater police powers stop and search.
3. more police
4. greater public security measures and screening in public places and public transport.
5. stricter controls on knife sale and possession, crack down on black markets.
6. redesign on kitchen knives to make safe versions that cannot be used as weapons and ONLY sell these, pretty sure someone has already designed this
7. better education particularly of at risk groups and understanding of causes of knife crime
8. tackle gang culture, provide better facilities for youths, prosecute parents of children involved in knife crime.
9. better mental health care and identification of those at risk, better communication and flagging to security services
10. deradicalisation programs and deporting of non-british citizens involved in any criminal activities or behaviours.

Any other suggestions?

All of this will involve considerable expenditure, of course, at a time when Britain is already struggling with the bank balance and crumbling infrastructure and services. This is not simply a labour or conservative problem to solve, it's bigger than any political party. It's a British problem to solve and is going to take more than one administration, probably a good 10 to 15 years even if drastic action is taken now.

That’s what I want as a first step - an admission that we have a problem.

After last summer’s violent riots and the country currently drowning in English flags it’s tricky for politicians to say there is a problem. Labour has routinely been seen as the party for immigrants as it’s been more open and accepting especially of working classes that now include immigrants. Not to mention how it’d be handing Reform more fuel. And encourage more racism and counter violence. Yes there is a problem, but it is not so easy for politicians to blithely say so apart from Farage as this is the only campaign issue he platforms.

The most seriously injured is an LNER employee

You aren't being silenced, you ve posted freely on here, Robinson held a huge rally in London, people can vote Reform and their 4 MPs can speak in Parliament.
FB etc is full of people who express their views on immigration, we even got a poster on here saying we should murder asylum seekers, that post wasn't deleted.

But the police shouldn't be releasing info on the attackers until they know, chances are these pair will be "no comment" all the police will know is their appearance.

As far as i'm aware Labour recognise the problem, but despite trying too, they, like the Tories before them, cannot stop the boats

Now for the n th time, how would you stop the boats and remove the 100k plus already here via boats?

Not so easy is it.