Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

Again - what do you want Starmer to do???

We think it’s a terror attack and there’s a photo floating round of attackers. Think the news is updating

they haven’t said where these people got on the train yet possibly at Doncaster.

i honestly believe they should stop selling alcohol on these trains - may not have any connection with this incident but drunks on train are a nuisance at times.

Yes I did. I live in a seaside town that has had machete fights in broad daylight and regular knife battles. I’ve seen gangs get on and off the train and have fostered children who have been involved in county lines so it’s where my mind immediately went when I heard this

Not being funny but it is a possibility.

Well it's not how my mind works but can't you see it's how the minds of people who will riot work?

Also, please point me at the last time we had a white Islamic terror operation in this country or a non white one which was other than Islamic? I lived through the white ones and I can tell you that the racism against the Irish at the time was extreme.

Apart from read the thread because there is comments of just about knowing If they are black or white !

Don't gangs usually stab other gang members not innocent, random train passengers?

Yes.

Over the last couple of months there’s been a number of train / tube stations evacuated - I read about the ones local to me on X and then the algorithm showed me more as they happened.

My first thought was that there was intelligence / chatter about train stations - but trains are far worse, no escape. Absolutely horrific for those involved

You have to worry that there are people so filled with hate that their solution is to just stab people. I can’t imagine how traumatic it will have been for victims and witnesses especially as they were stuck with the train presumably pelting it to a station where it can stop and not knowing when help might come. I also feel sorry for the driver - I can’t imagine what it must have been like for him/her knowing people were being attacked and having to keep driving to somewhere safe for emergency services to access.

If this is immigration related then I think there will be wider ramifications whether that be adding further fuel to Reform or counter violence. I don’t think you can legitimately blame some of the issues facing the country on a government that has been in power for a year but Starmer will be under some pressure from his own party. His party conference speech was all about Reform which was quite telling.

There's no need to stop the boats. Stop the abuse of the asylum system. Turn asylum claims around in 14 days. If unsuccessful, you're on the next plane home. No right of appeal. If you arrive without papers, straight into jail with you until you remember where you are from.

Really? its ALL about skin colour

I have known many over the years been stabbed by gangs who were not in gangs mind you the 2 closest to me were black so people would assume otherwise.
one was in a bus station
the other on a quite street whilst he went to get his mum milk from the corner shop.
they were both innocent and that’s only 2 people I directly know personally.

In the past few days I've been thinking about the charge that objection to mass immigration and asylum seekers is racist. It's true we feel ashamed we didn't offer more asylum to Jews fleeing the Nazis or that our attitude to Ukrainian refugees was more welcoming, even if the actual scheme involved the Ukrainians having to find their own sponsor and fighting age men not being included. However, in the case of Jewish people in occupied Europe, or the Ukrainians or, for example, Indians fleeing Amin's Uganda, it was easy to identify who those people were and clear that they were the victims of the situation, even if not all perfect as people.

The problem with the current system is that it actively encourages young, fit, crime-affiliated males to game it; we have no way of establishing who these men truly are, which country they are actually from or even what age they are (and a seeming lack of curiosity to find out); and, if people are coming from places such as Sudan, Afghanistan or Syria, there seems to be no way to establish if they are fleeing persecution or one of the cohort from those countries who have turned them into barbarous hell-holes and would like to financially or spiritually benefit from doing a bit of the same here. We have a system that is attracting the people who are making their birth countries unliveable.

Better start building a lot more prisons and magically make sure all countries will accept failed asylum seekers including those with no means of air travel from the UK

The boats most definitely need to stop.

For god sake people - this is why riots happen.

there are absolutely zero confirmed reports of the attackers nationality, religion or immigration status. Yet so many on here are foaming at the mouth about immigrants and islamists.

just bloody wait for the police to do their work. Stop getting yourselves all wound up until you know the truth about what has happened.

Definitely time for the police to be sorted out with a constant public presence rather than having to respond wasting vital minutes. Local to me there’s always lots of events at cafes with police for community stuff or they are in Costa . They need to get back out there I never see a police officer anywhere other than cafes !

Yes. Which is why this will provoke terror, the thought of being stuck on a train with this. It makes people afraid of daily life stuff.

I’m sorry but the FIRST thing I thought was ‘Deranged Muslim Radicals’ and no it doesn’t make anyone a bigot to state the obvious. We have a real problem in the West that needs to be sorted asap.

I will tell you a first step - let’s have your response to it.

To stop trying to silence people, and their legitimate concerns about what is happening in this country.

Many of us want to know that our sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are able to live without fear of being stabbed to death by someone who evidently hates us. We want the information, so that we can make an informed decision - not so it can be retrained by a government, incapable or unwilling to act, for the purposes of ‘social cohesion’ - more likely because it offends a section of their core voter base.

How about they stop taking us for fools?

That’s what I want as a first step - an admission that we have a problem.

And this is said, irrespective of the outcome of last night’s terrible attack - just to be clear.

A compound. They shouldn’t be free to walk around our streets within hours of illegally entering.

Please do supply us with a list of countries who won't accept the return of failed asylum seekers.

I unfortunately do not have the answer to these questions.

I personally simply wish the UK and its residents the very best — which obviously includes a competent Prime Minister who won’t fudge, evade, or simply offer platitudes.

That’s why I certainly won’t be rooting for the PM to fail. And it’s not as if the last few Prime Ministers did such a splendid job either.
It seems Starmer has been handed an already leaking ship, so let’s hope he doesn’t let it sink on his watch.