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NoNever · 02/11/2025 02:29

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:16

He was named locally/on social media, not by the police. Sick of everything being a conspiracy theory these days because people with one GCSE want to feel clever 🙄

He was named by police.

And your silly insults are just that. Silly, because you don’t like the truth being spoken.

WishinAndHopin · 02/11/2025 02:31

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:20

Using murdered children to push a racist agenda. Wow.

White people being targeted for murder: absolutely, definitely not racist.

White people noticing this fact: RACIST RACIST RACIST!!!! LOCK THEM UP FOR LIFE!!!

It's the disgraceful, immoral and unintelligent attitudes like yours that allowed the conditions necessary for the children to be murdered in the first place. Get off your high horse.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/11/2025 02:34

JHound · 02/11/2025 00:54

“Lovely leafy area”.

Such a tired and lazy trope.

But if the cap fits.

Libellousness · 02/11/2025 02:36

JHound · 02/11/2025 00:29

“Immigrant background” = Briton”. Bringing in anybody of any potential immigrant background becomes meaningless as that is millions of Britons.

But how many mass stabbings like this have there even been in the UK and how many by immigrants?

Mass stabbings in recent British history:

Manchester Synagogue Attack (2025) - Syrian immigrant
Southport attack (2024) - son of Rwandan immigrants
Reading stabbing (2020) - Libyan immigrant
London Bridge attack (2019) - son of Pakistani immigrants
Manchester Victoria attack (2018) - Dutch national of Somali origin
Borough Market attack (2017 - combined stabbing/vehicle attack) - one Pakistani immigrant, one Moroccan/Libyan failed asylum seeker, one Moroccan immigrant.

Put simply, white British people have never been the perpetrators of indiscriminate mass stabbings targeting strangers. This is an entirely foreign import.

NoNever · 02/11/2025 02:40

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:16

He was named locally/on social media, not by the police. Sick of everything being a conspiracy theory these days because people with one GCSE want to feel clever 🙄

Police announced within TWO HOURS that the suspect was a white male.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/four-people-injured-liverpool-parade-crash-very-very-ill-mayor-says-2025-05-27/

Police were unusually quick to provide a description of the man they arrested, saying around two hours after the incident he was a "53-year-old white British man from the Liverpool area."
Former police officers and local politicians said that statement was needed to cool social media speculation that the episode was an Islamist attack.
"That was one of my first concerns, that we needed to get the story out quickly," Mayor of Liverpool City Region Steve Rotheram told the BBC.

Hardly a conspiracy theory when the police are flat out saying they let people know as fast as they can when a suspect is white.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:49

NoNever · 02/11/2025 02:29

He was named by police.

And your silly insults are just that. Silly, because you don’t like the truth being spoken.

“You just don’t like the truth” 🤪 Obvious deflection used by someone who knows they’re chatting shit.

NoNever · 02/11/2025 02:54

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:49

“You just don’t like the truth” 🤪 Obvious deflection used by someone who knows they’re chatting shit.

I posted an article showing the police say themselves that they let the public know Paul Doyle was a white man within 2 hours BECAUSE he was a white man. I don’t need to deflect.

I’d say you’re the one chatting shit and trying to deflect with little insults because that’s all you have.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:57

NoNever · 02/11/2025 02:54

I posted an article showing the police say themselves that they let the public know Paul Doyle was a white man within 2 hours BECAUSE he was a white man. I don’t need to deflect.

I’d say you’re the one chatting shit and trying to deflect with little insults because that’s all you have.

You literally said they named him, now you’re changing your story saying the police said it was a white man because you were called out. Embarrassing.

NoNever · 02/11/2025 03:02

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 02:57

You literally said they named him, now you’re changing your story saying the police said it was a white man because you were called out. Embarrassing.

They did name him before charges were laid.

Embarrassing for you maybe.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 03:05

NoNever · 02/11/2025 03:02

They did name him before charges were laid.

Embarrassing for you maybe.

The police did not. They named him on the 29th May when charges were brought against him. Facts matter!

NoNever · 02/11/2025 03:32

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 03:05

The police did not. They named him on the 29th May when charges were brought against him. Facts matter!

You might be right about his actual name….if I’m wrong about the actual name being released I’m wrong. I remember it being demanded because that other poor man was being named on social media when it wasn’t him.

It doesn’t change that they rushed as fast as can be to let everyone know he was a white man BECAUSE he’s a white man.

You’re definitely right that facts matter. Are you willing to admit they released his ethnicity because he was white? Like the police themselves said they did?

awakeandasleep · 02/11/2025 03:34

Keir Starmer needs to resign.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 03:45

Appreciate you admitting it. Nothing wrong with a fact check.

I am obviously ‘willing to admit’ that police released his age and ethnicity because that literally happened. I disagree that it was ‘because he was white’ - it happened because people were spreading false claims and putting innocent people at risk.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 02/11/2025 03:50

Comefromaway · 01/11/2025 23:37

terrifying. I really hope that everyone injured is ok.

it’s the route my son regularly travels on. He gets the train from Leeds. He’ll be on that route next week again.

Not much more you can say really. Shocking.

It's the same for one of my sons, who lives in Leeds and uses that line frequently for work. My other son lives in Huntingdon. He is very upset, all the ambulances and police cars went past him this evening, he said it was very surreal.

I just hope that all those injured make a full recovery

Strawberrydelight78 · 02/11/2025 03:50

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I saw an interview with a witness he just said he was all dressed in black with face and hands covered. There is ment to have been 2 arested though. But yes if it's someone not ethnic who is responsible or the victims are POC then the right wing will shut up and forget about it.

NoNever · 02/11/2025 03:57

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 03:45

Appreciate you admitting it. Nothing wrong with a fact check.

I am obviously ‘willing to admit’ that police released his age and ethnicity because that literally happened. I disagree that it was ‘because he was white’ - it happened because people were spreading false claims and putting innocent people at risk.

Are you saying you believe they would have released the information within 2 hours if he had been an islamic terrorist?

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 04:02

You are trying to bait a reaction. Nice try 👏🏼

ocdstress · 02/11/2025 04:05

Literally watching the guys statement now - he said “a black male dressed in all black a black hoodie”

miraxxx · 02/11/2025 04:05

nocoolnamesleft · 02/11/2025 01:13

Why are people focusing on race again? More male violence. It’s always men.

A classic of the genre! Well done.

NoNever · 02/11/2025 04:07

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 04:02

You are trying to bait a reaction. Nice try 👏🏼

I’m honestly curious if you truly believe the information would have been released if he were an islamic terrorist. You don’t have to respond, of course.

It’s the internet. There is no “reaction.” We don’t even have our real names attached to this.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 04:13

And I honestly believe you aren’t looking for my answer but are asking hypothetical questions in bad faith.

MarshaMarshaMarsha · 02/11/2025 04:19

Swiftasthewind · 02/11/2025 01:22

That doesn’t necessarily mean complexion, the witness could have been describing the perpetrator as ‘black’ in a more descriptive sense as in evil or scary.

Are you actually serious?!?!?

miraxxx · 02/11/2025 04:26

Libellousness · 02/11/2025 02:36

Mass stabbings in recent British history:

Manchester Synagogue Attack (2025) - Syrian immigrant
Southport attack (2024) - son of Rwandan immigrants
Reading stabbing (2020) - Libyan immigrant
London Bridge attack (2019) - son of Pakistani immigrants
Manchester Victoria attack (2018) - Dutch national of Somali origin
Borough Market attack (2017 - combined stabbing/vehicle attack) - one Pakistani immigrant, one Moroccan/Libyan failed asylum seeker, one Moroccan immigrant.

Put simply, white British people have never been the perpetrators of indiscriminate mass stabbings targeting strangers. This is an entirely foreign import.

How frequent are actual far right "white guy" terror attacks, taking out political violence by the IRA, far left factions?

  1. 1999, David Copeland nail bombings,
  2. 2013, Pavlo Lapshyn who attacked muslims and a mosque
  3. 2016, Jo Cox was murdered by a white nationalist
  4. 2017 Finsbury Mosque attack by Darren Osborne
  5. 2022 Dover Firebomb attack
  6. 2024 Callum Parslow stabbed an asylum seeker

These are from wikipedia and that is the sum of white far-right terror attacks which are next to nothing (given the relative population sizes) compared to the number and body count of muslim terror attacks in the last 4 decades. Expecting people to not notice these patterns (when our lives have been directly affected by security measures die to this) and pretend it is just football fans is the hypocrisy and dishonesty of many on pps on these MN threads. Carry on burying your heads in the sand and gatekeeping the "racism".

NoNever · 02/11/2025 04:30

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 04:13

And I honestly believe you aren’t looking for my answer but are asking hypothetical questions in bad faith.

Ok, you don’t want to answer.

But don’t call me a liar. That’s uncalled for and rude.

Hhyjmhyu · 02/11/2025 04:35

NoNever · 02/11/2025 04:30

Ok, you don’t want to answer.

But don’t call me a liar. That’s uncalled for and rude.

Another classic move - trying to shift the focus onto my behaviour.

I didn’t call you a liar. I called out spreading misinformation. There is a difference.

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