Thread 36 Starmer - Triggered by ads and Da iawn, Caerffili.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5427394-thread-35-starmer-old-and-smelling-of-roses?page=40&reply=148165782

I agree @BIossomtoes I rented out my house for a short while when I explored moving areas. I engaged a letting agent who told me all the legal things I needed and sorted them on my behalf. I didn’t check because I was paying an expert to check for me. Same as when I had my house rewired I didn’t spend time googling the best way to do that - I trusted the expert I employed.

https://news.sky.com/story/put-them-in-camps-and-deport-them-sky-news-gets-rare-access-inside-reform-uk-meeting-13450995

Put them in camps and deport them': Sky News gets rare access inside Reform UK meeting
Sky's Connor Gillies asks Reform members in Scotland about some of their policy proposals, which include deportation camps, as the party looks to make an impact north of the border.

'the potential candidates we met going "off-script" was "problem we are working with".'

The problem is you can bet your bottom dollar that regardless of the incompetence of the letting agent it is the owner whose arse is in a sling.

Part of the "heads we win, tails you lose" basis of English common law.

https://bsky.app/profile/jim.londoncentric.media/post/3m4ehwuj2v22d

I’d been hearing about so many issues/cock-up/mistakes on this very specific licensing issue in Southwark that I’d been trying to find a way into the story for the last few weeks. Guess the chancellor has given me the top line…

That echos a post I just read on one of the anti-immigration threads.

Thanks for the new thread, cat tax paid with a cat who thought he should get a second dinner with us

My youngest, happy to pay tax and wishing the world could be better……

Thanks for the new thread @DuncinToffee .here's some old photo tax.

I do think Reeves issue is being overplayed. If she used a letting agent then it's down to them to ensure all legal conditions are up to scratch. I listened to lbc this morning and there was a woman (who was no fan of Reeves) who had the same issue with the Southwark licence. And she used a 'reputable' letting agent.

Someone started what looked to be quite an interesting AMA thread about what it is like working in politics right now. 21 posts in and someone is trying to turn it into an anti-immigration thread. A poster with one post to their name.🙄

I’m usually the first to criticise any indiscretions but I agree with this.

If I hire a solicitor for £sssss I don’t expect to google the law myself as that’s what I’ve employed them to advise me on.

If I engage an estate agent to rent my property and pay them a £% I expect them to know what to do not to then google it myself.

Drs dont expect us to know how to do our own operations or to diagnose ourselves. We don’t expect the cashier at Tesco to teach GCSE science.

If someone is paid to do a job then they should have the knowledge to do that job the have paid for. Why pay a solicitor if we are expected to check Google and the law (or importantly understand if they are doing their job properly)?

I feel like there is a co ordinated smear campaign against Labour because previously parties have deliberately done much worse and we’ve been expected to “accept an apology and move on”.

Im no Labour supporter but I’m actually happier with this current leadership than I’ve been with previous ones and really want the country to work - I hate all these attempts to disrupt it and make our country fail in the false name of patriotism

You need to post once to get a name change to stick (so I am told)

If I hire a solicitor for £sssss I don’t expect to google the law myself as that’s what I’ve employed them to advise me on.

When we bought our current home, it was just after Gordon Brown removed stamp duty in deprived areas.

When the solicitors invoice came, they had included a line for stamp duty.

We then learned that they had totally failed to spot that the ground rent was outstanding. Which led to a summons.

Apparently this is all par for the course, and in no way a reflection on their services and it's incumbent on the purchaser to ensure everything is in order.

I mean it's not like I had much respect for solicitors before anyway (having had to work with them professionally).

Slightly OT, but I Told You So.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/29/forrester_ai_rehiring

I'll send taxes later.

To be fair, I've not had many dealings with solicitors, but every one I've come across has been shit!

Estate agents likewise. Lying bastards that will say anything for the sale.

Based on a comprehensive analysis of the evidence, DSIT’s assessment is that, on average, £1 of civil public R&Dinvestment generates £8 in net economic benefits for the UK over the long term.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-value-of-public-rd/the-value-of-public-rd

When we bought our first house in 1981 it was a terrace and our first floor covered the whole of the alleyway between us and next door. Our solicitor spotted that ever since 1926, when the houses were first sold separately, the boundary had been drawn the wrong side which meant that about a metre of 2 bedrooms was recorded as belonging to next door. The house had been sold many times with this error. I always check what I'm told now. Took ages to sort because Land Registry were on strike and we finally completed in the Thursday before our Easter Wedding. I'd already moved onto a friend 's sofa when my tenancy expired a fortnight before so it was by the skin of our teeth we had anywhere to live together after the wedding.

When I worked in estate agency software I had to deal with both. And they were complete cunts.

I lost interest when an estate agent who argued over £25/month increase in support complained about missing out on £250,000 commission because an upload to PrimeLocation (remember them) failed. (It was their fault).

I think my post may have sent some of our lurkers to the AMA thread. Sorry OP of the AMA thread, if you read this

Dealt with pretty well by the OP though!

https://northeastbylines.co.uk/news/environment/milibands-clean-energy-plan-offers-real-hope-and-must-not-be-watered-down/

Miliband’s clean energy plan offers real hope and must not be watered down
Some encouraging news in an area which is vital to both the economy and the environment, particularly to a region like the North East

Yes. She should become an MP, she'd be good!

Remember whilst the rightistas are decrying green energy, China is racing to move away from coal (hence the falling price) and into as green as possible as soon as possible.

It's the "as possible" bit people tend to struggle with in a country with a population nearly 20 times that of the UK.

I thought the whole point of net zero etc was to attract inward investment. Get ahead of other countries etc. One of the few areas I thought Johnson was genuinely interested in (whilst setting up his next income stream).

From the Guardian. What the heck is going on?

"No 10 says ethics adviser now reviewing new information about Reeves's rental licence error - but PM still has confidence in her
No 10 has revealed that inquiries into Rachel Reeves’s rental licence error – which in effect wrapped up within hours last night – have been reopened.

At the afternoon lobby briefing, the No 10 spokesperson issued this statement.

"Following a review of emails sent and received by the chancellor’s husband [Nick Joicey], new information has come to light. This has now been passed to the prime minister and his independent adviser. It would be inappropriate to comment further"

The initial reaction at lobby was that this could be career-ending for Reeves, particularly because initally the spokesperson declined to say that the PM has confidence in the chancellor. But the spokesperson swiftly corrected the impression he had given, and said that the PM does have “full confidence” in the chancellor.

Downing Street is expected to publish these emails later today."

But the far right don't care (and indeed don't want) inward investment. Because that would be good for the proles.

What they want (in obscene amounts) is very much outward spending. Ideally with their mates companies. I mean Russia is desperate for foreign currency. So desperate that they turned to Ringmaster Farage to sort it for them.

If Farage is worried about his security it will be because the Russians aren't happy with what they got for their money. I can easily see Farage being stupid enough to try and pull one over them.