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Thread 36 Starmer - Triggered by ads and Da iawn, Caerffili.

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DuncinToffee · 29/10/2025 22:12

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PickAChew · 08/11/2025 08:07

It's a tour on the sense that he takes a shit on numerous towns and cities. There was a huge counterprotest when he visited Newcastle - all well managed. Newcastle is an "experienced" protest city, though and city a d regional leaders turned up to the counter protest. Some towns may have neither the experience in policing these things nor the enthusiasm from local leaders to tell UKIP and their grey tracksuited followers that that's not what we stand for.

Hopefully the police do a decent job of this one protest and keep the hotel occupants safe. @MsJinks

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 08:53

That's horrible Angry

Are they in Sheffield by any chance, that would explain the Nazi salute cunts comments I have seen.

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DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 08:54

Great news about your Bon Jovi tickets @MsJinks

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PandoraSocks · 08/11/2025 09:23

Why, why are people so awful? I am fuming on your behalf that the police won't allow a counter protest, @MsJinks

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 08/11/2025 09:39

With this discussion about The Mass Deportation Tour I've noted that the anniversary of Kristallnacht is tomorrow night.
Clearly a lot of people pay no attention to history (or worryingly perhaps they do...)

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 09:48

They would have joined in

Now it is Muslims they are attacking

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/nov/07/uk-mosques-soaring-attacks-british-muslim-trust-flags-christian-nationalist-slogans

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placemats · 08/11/2025 10:08

It's all so worrying. I'm shocked at the Section 14 order.

PandoraSocks · 08/11/2025 10:09

"The report says victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes consistently reported limited follow-up from police and online platforms, fuelling a perception that anti-Muslim hatred is tolerated or minimised"

A perception? It absolutely is tolerated and minimised.

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 10:17

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 08:53

That's horrible Angry

Are they in Sheffield by any chance, that would explain the Nazi salute cunts comments I have seen.

It is indeed in Sheffield today

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/sheffield-anti-racists-condemn-police-facilitation-mass-deportations-ukip-march

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ilovesooty · 08/11/2025 10:23

That's horrible.

Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2025 10:24

My DS is back form Sheffield Uni this weekend so thankfully doesn't have to go near.

MsJinks · 08/11/2025 10:30

Yes, Sheffield- city of sanctuary- that has been, and mainly still is, a very welcoming city to all.
No one really bothered to do the hotel protest a few months back, which was heartening, very different to Chesterfield.
Council tried to stop Tenconi March but it was allowed to meet and it will March to the main asylum hotel. Counter protesters leafleted and messaged and it was set up to start at the cathedral, but only now told we can’t meet there - most won’t even know that though. We can stand in an area a street or 2 away from the hotel but no marching, or going nearer the hotel, but we like to be nearer the hotels to give the asylum seekers hope that we don’t all hate them.
Tenconi spins it very differently and as leftie Sheff council has given in, as they have a shorter protest time allocated, but I am baffled that they are allowed near the hotel at all, especially after what happened in neighbouring Rotherham - and honestly feel quite sick about it. Not comparing but just been to Krakow and did the sad and sobering visit whilst there - any, absolutely any person Nazi saluting and calling for mass deportations needs stopping strongly and should be in court imo - stop it in its tracks.
Also sad as I’m proud of Sheffield and gonna be forced to realise there’s a lot not to be proud of today 😞 - there’s also a football match in town and they have a fair few right wing supporters - hopefully they’ll stick to the footie though.

Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2025 10:48

DS has started working at the kiosks at SWFC MsJinks. I'm not sure it's much fun for NMW.

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 10:50

Funnily enough it was football supporters from both clubs calling out the nazi scum on my SM,

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pointythings · 08/11/2025 10:50

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 08/11/2025 09:39

With this discussion about The Mass Deportation Tour I've noted that the anniversary of Kristallnacht is tomorrow night.
Clearly a lot of people pay no attention to history (or worryingly perhaps they do...)

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DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 10:56

Next thread is ready

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5440759-thread-37-starmer-pinko-commie-slimeball

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cardibach · 08/11/2025 10:57

DuncinToffee · 07/11/2025 19:23

We only get Jehova witnesses, the are friendly enough and not pushy.

The ones here are fine too. When they start their pitch I just say ‘I’m not interested, thanks, I have my own beliefs’ (my own belief is that I’m atheist but they don’t know that). The last one said ‘oh that’s lovely’ and they went off happy.

cardibach · 08/11/2025 11:00

itsgettingweird · 07/11/2025 20:24

I’m loosely religious.

ds went to school with a lovely boy who’s dad was a vicar. Being a LP to a disabled child I took up their offer to attend their church (in a scout hit and all very relaxed). It helped me feel and have a community around me.

All was going well until the day the vicar asked “is there any questions?”.

Ds 🙋‍♂️ he wanted to know why the but kept saying God created the world when we all knew the dinosaurs were here before us 🤦🏼‍♀️

We stopped going after that 😂😂

I mean, I don’t believe, but that should be an easy answer. The story of Genesis is an allegory - and the order of creation doesn’t contradict evolution (if you just include dinosaurs in with lizards etc).

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2025 11:00

MsJinks · 08/11/2025 10:30

Yes, Sheffield- city of sanctuary- that has been, and mainly still is, a very welcoming city to all.
No one really bothered to do the hotel protest a few months back, which was heartening, very different to Chesterfield.
Council tried to stop Tenconi March but it was allowed to meet and it will March to the main asylum hotel. Counter protesters leafleted and messaged and it was set up to start at the cathedral, but only now told we can’t meet there - most won’t even know that though. We can stand in an area a street or 2 away from the hotel but no marching, or going nearer the hotel, but we like to be nearer the hotels to give the asylum seekers hope that we don’t all hate them.
Tenconi spins it very differently and as leftie Sheff council has given in, as they have a shorter protest time allocated, but I am baffled that they are allowed near the hotel at all, especially after what happened in neighbouring Rotherham - and honestly feel quite sick about it. Not comparing but just been to Krakow and did the sad and sobering visit whilst there - any, absolutely any person Nazi saluting and calling for mass deportations needs stopping strongly and should be in court imo - stop it in its tracks.
Also sad as I’m proud of Sheffield and gonna be forced to realise there’s a lot not to be proud of today 😞 - there’s also a football match in town and they have a fair few right wing supporters - hopefully they’ll stick to the footie though.

Agree Sheffield is a great city.

We visit every year as DS competes at Ponds forge.

Its so sad to see how much depreciation and deprivation there is in parts though. Allowing “tours” like this probably appeals to those people though - gives them someone to blame. And that’s why hate them. It’s not asylum seekers or immigrants. It’s the government and local councils allowing areas to depreciate.

MsJinks · 08/11/2025 11:03

Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2025 10:48

DS has started working at the kiosks at SWFC MsJinks. I'm not sure it's much fun for NMW.

Ahh - the best Sheffield club lol - don’t follow footie at all really, but my mum and grandad supported the owls and I lived near there for a bit - though they’re struggling now. Hope your boy is glad to work for the best blues, as much as possible at least on such a wage in I presume cold and not the best conditions.

cardibach · 08/11/2025 11:04

That’s really horrible and unfair @MsJinks
Jealous of your Bon Jovi tickets though!

Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2025 11:04

Bit hectic. He is on the away fans bit where women aren't even placed to work! All good experience. But yes, rather the Owls than the Blades!

MsJinks · 08/11/2025 11:10

DuncinToffee · 08/11/2025 10:50

Funnily enough it was football supporters from both clubs calling out the nazi scum on my SM,

Glad about that - it is all improving there and I do think clubs do good stuff to discourage the few poor fans. One of our teams does have some of those of the age range of going during the worst football times and joining in - they set up fights away from the stadium now - for ‘the lads’ baffling! There are of course many other supporters who have no truck with this type of violence so I think it’s probably going to keep reducing over time.
The March ends after the match starts think so should be sufficiently separate anyway.

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