Labour isn't working - Thread 15

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I think the pp may have left us if you read her last paragraph on the original post.

A friend of mine moved her DC to a private school for this very reason. Her quiet, well behaved August born child was struggling, largely due to his age but there were so many SEN children in his class including those with serious physical and mental disabilities that her child didn’t get a look in.

I don't think everyone here blames one party for everything that's gone wrong.

The Conservatives certainly made mistakes as well.

Phonics is good. I don’t think it’s right for every child which is where the system falls down. Schools are tied to doing it and making every child sit the phonics test. I do wish schools were allowed to drop it where it just does not work.

100% Gove and Gav…looking at you.

Agreed. I'm not sure what that comment was about tbh. I have plenty to say about tory failings too, but that's not what this thread is for. We are holding the current government to account. Plenty of us have also voted Labour in the past, me included.

Peace to all 💙

More in Common

Reform 33 (+2)
Labour 21 (-1)
Conservative 18 (-1)
Lib Dems 12 (-1)
Greens 11 (+1)

Fieldwork 24-27 October

Thanks @Upstartled
I keep adding up the numbers to see what a coalition would look like.

Davey and Farage on -10 approval rating, Badenoch at -24 and Starmer -47.

I'm not sure how this would look on an MRP poll. I'm not sure Reform wouldn't get an overall majority with those stats.

But if you mean a coalition merged prior to the election, I suppose you could get a formidable coalition from Labour and LibDems if they could work together and the affiliation wouldn't leave voters completely apathetic and unwilling to vote at all.

Yes, agreed. I suppose it depends on distribution which is difficult to assess.

Am I right in thinking that more in common polls are usually much kinder to Labour?
They have higher numbers than some other polls for Reform recently. Although Labour's score is higher too.

Yes sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't just adding up Reform + Cons. There is also the prospect of a left version.

It did use to be like that but I'm not sure that would be true to say that now. Their MRP poll in September for labour was the most brutal of all the pollsters, suggesting they'd only get 90 seats.

On education SEN we desperately need all of these things on the table, some kids can do best in mainstream with minor adjustments, some kids will never cope in large classes due to sensory needs.

I’m dubious that we’re adequately separating out cost savings from improving outcomes for all children.

Blair wasn’t necessarily wrong to make mainstream an easier choice to make, if it was right for particular children, but it’s become a cost saving push where kids need to fail out of provision a ‘prove you can’t cope’ and that isn’t the right implementation.

Aaah I love that. Your previous post about your mate gave me a much-needed smile on a very bad day. My insides feel all squidgy. ❤

@upseedaisee have a lovely birthday!!! That’s a brilliant start!

Lovely! Happy birthday @upseedaisee

Yeah me included as well. Committed I was once.

I think Reform and conservatives would leave everyone else scrambling - unless you could get Labour, LibDems and Greens to work in cahoots but I don't think any of those coalitions could stomach each other.

🎉Happy Birthday, Upseedaisee!🎉

Oh and to be specific- I used to be a member, a canvasser and an election scrutineer!

Gosh, that's all in, when did you give up on them MantleStatue? Was your support lost in increments or did you leave in protest at one policy?

Yes I think so too.
Just thinking aloud here, but I'm curious as to what the one-natiion type tories would do if the cons linked up with Reform. Many won't like that, but their natural leap would be towards the Lib Dems. However, if the Lib Dems had got into bed with Labour which seems to be the direction of travel, that would also be a no-no. Anyway, I'm rambling.