Labour isn't working - Thread 13

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Looks like Mahmood was aware that a ban for Israeli football fans was on the table. Once again, Starmer's got egg on his face.

I'm sure he has full confidence in her.

So much for all their rhetoric after the Manchester attack.
Starmer is no leader is he. He just reacts (badly) depending on the wind direction.

It’s a mess atm isn’t it, all this stuff ramping up. I’m not surprised but still

Labour just can’t get a handle on it.

Is it just me feeling depressed, miserable and unsafe since Labour came in and stuffed up the country? I hate it.

No..I keep thinking they can't be any worse..but then they are

Chin up 😊
They'll be out in 3.5 years and it will be a loooong time before another Labour gov comes to power. We just need to stay as Labour-proof as possible until we can boot them out.

I am loving seeing these red toadstools everywhere at the minute. Saw this one on my run today 🍄

DH and I were talking over dinner. We are actively househunting abroad - in my home country.

I said that I have now completely emotionally detached from the UK. I have been here more than 20 years and was committed to this country. To raising my children here and dying here. No longer.

Even 3 weeks or so ago when we first discussed it I was feeling sorrow ad grief at the thought of moving. I don't anymore. I have had THAT complete emotional change in such a short period of time. DH was born here and he said that a few months ago he could never realistically imagine leaving his home and country. Tonight he said he truly no longer cares. He's ready to move because he is sick of being treated like he is scum.

It's an emotional deep-seated soulshaking earthquake inside our very beings.

That's what Labour has done to us. And many others.

It’s going to get bumpy, no question in my mind, but please stay strong - resilience and willingness to adapt are key.

This too shall pass.

No, not just you. I’m not just annoyed or frustrated. I feel anxiety and insecurity.

Labour are hollowing out savings and the ability to plan for the future.

No.

You are not alone there.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is looking to boost UK share ownership by overhauling Isas, with potential measures including a minimum holding of British companies and a stamp duty tax break.

The move, an evolution of the previously abandoned Conservative plan to create a “Brit Isa”, comes as Reeves looks for growth-enhancing measures in her November 26 Budget.

FT

Great, forced to hold UK stocks… It makes more sense to hold US stocks outside of the isa wrapper and just pay tax than buy a bunch of rubbish mining, money laundering and domestic banking crap.

Was going to add to my gold collection today from my preferred bullion dealer..... not a sovereign or half sovereign to be seen, (cgt free) I couldn't even buy a silver Brittania!! Now that had me scared.

DH says buy American dollars. He's just checking yuan

Just checked and you're right - a few commemorative coins at an elevated price. I've never seen that before. Bloody hell, that really is scary.

Do you mean that you're buying foreign currency in cash @justasking111 ? Or in an ETF?

Interesting point! Had never considered that.

I’d considered it - I’ve got plenty of friends who consider private school the unacceptable face of the morally unprincipled and privileged whilst not working anything like full time….nobody claims part time nhs treatment for part time work.

I honestly don't know what I think should happen: ban reversed and shit-loads of policing / match cancelled / football supporters from both side banned / football association required to foot the bill for the extra security are all options. But banning Jewish fans because they claim not to be able to police the match whilst spending so much on permitting and policing anti-Jew hate marches every week is completely not OK.

2-tier policing is so entrenched that I wonder wherher we can ever step back from it. And the rise in anti-semitism in the UK is horrific - even apart from the moral wrongness ('never again'?!?) it's the canary in the coal mine.

Telegraph article 'The Maccabi ban is the most shameful example of two-tier policing yet':
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5bc7826d488c1438

It is absolutely shameful. We allowed it to fester in the unions, universities and certain political parties and religions and now it seems to be fucking everywhere. Why am I in England thanking my lucky stars that I'm not Jewish and having so send my Jewish children out into the world? It puts knots in my stomach.

I honestly don't care how much it costs to police, as you say, surely no more than policing the pro-palestine hate riddled marches week in and out for years, but we cannot cede daily life to this anti-semitism.

It is difficult isn’t it - nobody wants violence and ugly scenes, injuries, but the right answer isn’t asking one group not to come, as that feels like we’re taking sides.

I’ve been checking the weather forecast. Rain starts in London tomorrow so the marches are going to be less well attended. Thank God.

Theres an interesting thing in the Times (an interview with Dominic Cummings). He describes Keir Starmer as an NPC (non player character) PM. However he also says that he wonders if Nigel Farage is enough of a psychopath to be PM.

Yes, its the debasement trade in full swing, premised on de-dollarisation, and a failing belief in fiat.

Not just gold, but silver and other base metals - anything perceived as a store of wealth.

Interesting about bullion.

I cannot recollect ever hearing people talk about buying bullion as part of any discussion. But I was at a lunch this week and one woman said she had just bought £50k worth and had to have a purpose-built safe made in her floor. Others said they were also going for bullion. (3 out of the 9 at the lunch)

These are all retirees from professional jobs aged in their 70s and 80s. It had never crossed my mind before.