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Labour isn't working - Thread 13

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TheNuthatch · 14/10/2025 22:45

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 18:11

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 18:09

Latest party leader net favourability ratings, October 2025

Nigel Farage: -33
Kemi Badenoch: -33
Jeremy Corbyn: -38
Keir Starmer: -51

Ed Davey: -4 (38% DK)
Zack Polanski: -4 (62% DK)
Zarah Sultana: -17 (60% DK)

I didn’t think one could get much lower than Corbyn, well it seems you can - in the ungainly shape of the human bollard…

Who’d have thunk it…

DancingFerret · 16/10/2025 18:32

On Question Time tonight: "Will you be happy paying higher taxes?"

Should be lively.😙

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 18:40

DancingFerret · 16/10/2025 18:32

On Question Time tonight: "Will you be happy paying higher taxes?"

Should be lively.😙

🤣 we should do drinking bingo for each time someone virtue signals by saying "I want to pay more tax"

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justasking111 · 16/10/2025 18:43

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 18:40

🤣 we should do drinking bingo for each time someone virtue signals by saying "I want to pay more tax"

I'd die of thirst 😁

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 18:44

justasking111 · 16/10/2025 18:43

I'd die of thirst 😁

🤣🤣 no you wouldn't, all the virtuous Left who are chomping at the bit to pay more tax......

DancingFerret · 16/10/2025 18:49

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 18:40

🤣 we should do drinking bingo for each time someone virtue signals by saying "I want to pay more tax"

😂

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 18:51

justasking111 · 16/10/2025 18:43

I'd die of thirst 😁

Not on mn there’s loads of them 😬

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:30

Question Time drinking games 😂😂
Only on this thread would you read something like that 🤣🤣

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NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 19:32

justasking111 · 16/10/2025 18:43

I'd die of thirst 😁

I was also going to say I'd die, but of alcohol poisoning! 🤣

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:32

And so it begins. Labour's digital ID charm offensive.

Several cabinet ministers have said the government needs to make the case for a wider digital identity system. The aim is for the ID cards to be rolled out before the next election and initially used to prove people’s right to work, before being expanded to store health and benefits data to streamline access to public services and tackle fraud.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/16/ministers-begin-charm-offensive-to-win-over-labour-mps-sceptical-of-digital-id-plans

Labour begins charm offensive to win over MPs sceptical of digital ID plans

Party tries to reassure its MPs about proposed scheme and gather ideas on how it could improve public services

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/16/ministers-begin-charm-offensive-to-win-over-labour-mps-sceptical-of-digital-id-plans

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twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 19:39

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:30

Question Time drinking games 😂😂
Only on this thread would you read something like that 🤣🤣

🤣

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 19:39

NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 19:32

I was also going to say I'd die, but of alcohol poisoning! 🤣

🤣🤣

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 19:40

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:32

And so it begins. Labour's digital ID charm offensive.

Several cabinet ministers have said the government needs to make the case for a wider digital identity system. The aim is for the ID cards to be rolled out before the next election and initially used to prove people’s right to work, before being expanded to store health and benefits data to streamline access to public services and tackle fraud.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/16/ministers-begin-charm-offensive-to-win-over-labour-mps-sceptical-of-digital-id-plans

Of course. Its not a shit policy, it's just the "comms" 🙄🙄🙄

Would any of the current supporters be happy with DI if it was Reform proposing it? I thought not

Upstartled · 16/10/2025 19:42

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 19:40

Of course. Its not a shit policy, it's just the "comms" 🙄🙄🙄

Would any of the current supporters be happy with DI if it was Reform proposing it? I thought not

No, of course they'd be railing against this if it were Reform. They are so thick it beggars belief.

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 19:46

Upstartled · 16/10/2025 19:42

No, of course they'd be railing against this if it were Reform. They are so thick it beggars belief.

Exactly.

Digital ID is insidious and especially in the hands of Labour. In the space of a few weeks we've gone from it being a tool to control immigration right through to it being essential for 13-16yr olds. What will it be in 12 months?

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:55

Do Labour actually believe that forcing digital ID on us will help them at the ballot box? Its baffling.
Or is this Labour accepting that they're fucked so we're already at the slash and burn stage?

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DancingFerret · 16/10/2025 20:01

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:55

Do Labour actually believe that forcing digital ID on us will help them at the ballot box? Its baffling.
Or is this Labour accepting that they're fucked so we're already at the slash and burn stage?

My money's on slash and burn.

On another note, I almost (but not quite) cheered when Emily Thornberry criticised the government during questions in the House this morning about China and our national security.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 20:08

DancingFerret · 16/10/2025 20:01

My money's on slash and burn.

On another note, I almost (but not quite) cheered when Emily Thornberry criticised the government during questions in the House this morning about China and our national security.

I missed that. Was it good?
Tom T is fuming from what I've read.

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justasking111 · 16/10/2025 20:13

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:32

And so it begins. Labour's digital ID charm offensive.

Several cabinet ministers have said the government needs to make the case for a wider digital identity system. The aim is for the ID cards to be rolled out before the next election and initially used to prove people’s right to work, before being expanded to store health and benefits data to streamline access to public services and tackle fraud.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/16/ministers-begin-charm-offensive-to-win-over-labour-mps-sceptical-of-digital-id-plans

Bet they'll want our banking details all our health details. Our lives all in one place to be read by God knows who

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 20:18

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 19:55

Do Labour actually believe that forcing digital ID on us will help them at the ballot box? Its baffling.
Or is this Labour accepting that they're fucked so we're already at the slash and burn stage?

Beijing has probably instructed them to implement it….

Just watch the Chinese embassy get nodded through over Xmas.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 20:22

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 20:18

Beijing has probably instructed them to implement it….

Just watch the Chinese embassy get nodded through over Xmas.

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Good grief, I don't think I can handle that rabbit hole. Terrifying 😬
Nothing would surprise me with this shower.

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TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 20:23

justasking111 · 16/10/2025 20:13

Bet they'll want our banking details all our health details. Our lives all in one place to be read by God knows who

Of course they will. Starmer is legacy building.

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Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 20:25

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 20:22

Good grief, I don't think I can handle that rabbit hole. Terrifying 😬
Nothing would surprise me with this shower.

Yeah sorry, I just don’t trust anything this lot say or do - they couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 20:29

Let’s hope that Starmer is hiding something.

US politicians fear they were compromised in Labour’s “deeply troubling” China spy leak and demanded answers from the Government.

In a letter to the British embassy, congressmen asked whether any sensitive information shared with MPs had been passed to the Chinese Communist Party.
The Republicans and Democrats warned that Britain set a “dangerous precedent” when charges were dropped against two alleged spies. They accuse Sir Keir Starmer’s Government of allowing Chinese aggression to “go unchecked”.

US politicians are “deeply troubled” by the government’s “seeming unwillingness” to seek justice for MPs who were supposedly spied on, the letter from the House of Representatives’ select committee on China said.

They urged the Government to confirm whether any information on House China committee members or their work was leaked in reports the alleged spies shared with Beijing.

“Given the Select Committee’s close cooperation with UK counterparts, including those in the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), was any information pertaining to the House Select Committee on China, including our work and/or current or previous Members, included in the numerous reports allegedly sold to the Chinese government?” the committee wrote.

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 20:31

Meanwhile, some wag has helpfully suggested that Starmer should change his name to Li Ying Wang Kier….

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