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Labour isn't working - Thread 13

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TheNuthatch · 14/10/2025 22:45

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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MantleStatue · 16/10/2025 12:16

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 12:06

Cultists will always cult

My parents live in Australia. My father used to be a committed Labor party supporter. But then he has changed completely due to their sheer incompetence and hard hard leftism. My aunt- in her 70s and ostensibly on paper exceptionally smart (PhD etc) just doubles down and parrots the Labor line. DDad says she is 'rusted on Labor'. Can't move her, no matter what they do or say.

She also occasionally calls me to tell me to tell my father how he ought to vote on various issues because she is making no headway with him. I ignore her. He is very reflective and willing to change his stance on issues. She is absolutely committed to whatever cause the Labor party says she should be committed to. No ability whatsoever to consider the evidence given to her by her own eyes and ears. Problem too is that she cannot debate respectfully. She shouts and harangues and periodically cuts ties with my father because he disagrees with her.

She also still owes my dad a bottle of wine. They had a bet after Trump left office last time and my father said he would get in again and she said no way. They bet a bottle on it.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:21

redange · 16/10/2025 12:03

Sorry for some of the Grammatical errors due to Dyslexia and rushing !

Don't worry, we don't attack for spelling and grammar on here 😊.
My phone screen is smashed so I can hardly see what I'm typing 😂

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Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:22

I did vote Labour solidly for oooh 25 years but I’ve never seen a govt as woefully anti hard work,
business etc as this one.

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NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:24

twistyizzy · 16/10/2025 11:52

Yes first 30K not taxed but then hammered on the rest

Any chance of a rebate at the end of the tax year? #clutchesatstraws

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 12:24

Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:22

I did vote Labour solidly for oooh 25 years but I’ve never seen a govt as woefully anti hard work,
business etc as this one.

I think that’s the main problem. The last Labour gov was not this.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:26

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 12:06

The Labour die hard thing is odd. Why do those very average, uninspiring and incompetent politicians inspire the levels of belief you see on here?

I think it’s a pay thing isn’t it? Which is fine it’s normal to want more pay whether public sector or dependent. I suppose we just need not to so many in that group that it doom spirals policy.

Just that ‘life long’ thing for some politicians, can’t relate to that.

I don't understand it either. There seems to be a particular cult-like attitude attached to Starmer personally. They must be able to see and feel whats happening, even if they're only exposed to it through their rising bills and food costs? They must have relatives/friends struggling in the private sector.

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NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:26

Nigel Farage is not everybody's cup of tea, however he at the present time is the best/only person available to save Britain fro 3rd world status within 10 years!

I can't agree with this. Reform would be as much of an economic disaster as Labour.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:27

Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:22

I did vote Labour solidly for oooh 25 years but I’ve never seen a govt as woefully anti hard work,
business etc as this one.

Same for my dh and extended family.

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Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:27

I can’t imagine Blair ever getting up and taking about people bleating about tax rises - he had more respect for the private sector than that at least..

AbsentosaurusRex · 16/10/2025 12:28

NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:26

Nigel Farage is not everybody's cup of tea, however he at the present time is the best/only person available to save Britain fro 3rd world status within 10 years!

I can't agree with this. Reform would be as much of an economic disaster as Labour.

Couldn’t agree with you more Fluffy.

Upstartled · 16/10/2025 12:28

Anti-hard work about sums it up and typifies the attitude of their supporters.

I feel like I'm hardening in the face of so much complaint that the state can't and won't do more to insulate people from every unfairness in life - even when the effort to do so robs the most vulnerable of proper support and leaves the whole economy more precarious for it.

CaveMum · 16/10/2025 12:29

AbsentosaurusRex · 16/10/2025 12:28

Couldn’t agree with you more Fluffy.

Add me to this as well.

AbsentosaurusRex · 16/10/2025 12:29

Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:27

I can’t imagine Blair ever getting up and taking about people bleating about tax rises - he had more respect for the private sector than that at least..

Agree. It’s embarrassing for her. A bit like Trump using the word ‘haters’. It’s unprofessional and childish. And telling.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:29

NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:26

Nigel Farage is not everybody's cup of tea, however he at the present time is the best/only person available to save Britain fro 3rd world status within 10 years!

I can't agree with this. Reform would be as much of an economic disaster as Labour.

Like you, I'm hoping for a Tory revival, but its not looking good.
Looks like we're on course for a Reform government. Let's hope they professionalise in time.

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NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:30

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:29

Like you, I'm hoping for a Tory revival, but its not looking good.
Looks like we're on course for a Reform government. Let's hope they professionalise in time.

We're travelling the same path!

AbsentosaurusRex · 16/10/2025 12:30

NoWordForFluffy · 16/10/2025 12:30

We're travelling the same path!

But is it a path or is it a parth?

it’s a path for me 😆

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 12:31

Rivalled · 16/10/2025 12:27

I can’t imagine Blair ever getting up and taking about people bleating about tax rises - he had more respect for the private sector than that at least..

Blair did pretty well from the private sector, eg the FS before the crash, a lot of his riding high was that risk and gamble.

We have just got the meanest most spiteful bunch of people, combined with their incompetence and it’s gruelling.

I thought we’d see this because people got excited by the ridiculous VAT policy and toolmaker nonsense pre GE. All rubbish. But dangerously so as dependency is going up.

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 12:32

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 12:26

I don't understand it either. There seems to be a particular cult-like attitude attached to Starmer personally. They must be able to see and feel whats happening, even if they're only exposed to it through their rising bills and food costs? They must have relatives/friends struggling in the private sector.

Maybe not. The food stuff is worth it for Starmer and perhaps no insight to the private sector.

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 12:43

AbsentosaurusRex · 16/10/2025 12:29

Agree. It’s embarrassing for her. A bit like Trump using the word ‘haters’. It’s unprofessional and childish. And telling.

A person who shamelessly cried during PMQ’s and then concocted a bullshit reason.

I’m not confident Reeves is familiar with any self-awareness.

redange · 16/10/2025 12:46

If Reform can get onboard and get in to Government a number of what will be defeated ex Conservative MP's that are exceptional, The need to get them in to Government due to the 'national' emergency that will be facing the next administration.

These Conservative names needed in a Government of salvation.
Jacob Rees Mogg
Katy Lam
Joy Morrisey
Esther Mc vee.
These four Conservative MP's are exceptional and would add a degree of Professionalism to the Goverment.

As Kemi Badenoch i have great sympathy for a gifted and talented person, who is unfortunately the last 'director' of an old family business that has run its course.
I say this as a Conservative member since being 14, now a Reform Member, because at the next election we need 12 million votes or 45% share to fight the Fabian orthodoxy of the infiltrated establishment.

If i had written this before Covid I would now consider myself a 'Raving Loon' However, this is where we are.

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 12:48

redange · 16/10/2025 12:46

If Reform can get onboard and get in to Government a number of what will be defeated ex Conservative MP's that are exceptional, The need to get them in to Government due to the 'national' emergency that will be facing the next administration.

These Conservative names needed in a Government of salvation.
Jacob Rees Mogg
Katy Lam
Joy Morrisey
Esther Mc vee.
These four Conservative MP's are exceptional and would add a degree of Professionalism to the Goverment.

As Kemi Badenoch i have great sympathy for a gifted and talented person, who is unfortunately the last 'director' of an old family business that has run its course.
I say this as a Conservative member since being 14, now a Reform Member, because at the next election we need 12 million votes or 45% share to fight the Fabian orthodoxy of the infiltrated establishment.

If i had written this before Covid I would now consider myself a 'Raving Loon' However, this is where we are.

I think the next ballot paper will have a box marked simply ABL.

redange · 16/10/2025 12:50

In the case of Jacob Rees Mogg he may stand against Reform in the up-coming North East Somerset By Election.

EasternStandard · 16/10/2025 12:52

redange · 16/10/2025 12:46

If Reform can get onboard and get in to Government a number of what will be defeated ex Conservative MP's that are exceptional, The need to get them in to Government due to the 'national' emergency that will be facing the next administration.

These Conservative names needed in a Government of salvation.
Jacob Rees Mogg
Katy Lam
Joy Morrisey
Esther Mc vee.
These four Conservative MP's are exceptional and would add a degree of Professionalism to the Goverment.

As Kemi Badenoch i have great sympathy for a gifted and talented person, who is unfortunately the last 'director' of an old family business that has run its course.
I say this as a Conservative member since being 14, now a Reform Member, because at the next election we need 12 million votes or 45% share to fight the Fabian orthodoxy of the infiltrated establishment.

If i had written this before Covid I would now consider myself a 'Raving Loon' However, this is where we are.

I agree on Kemi. I think she’s right on most stuff and Sunak was too incidentally but it’s a hard hill to climb, oh and Boris was done by a strategist and media.

In any case if Labour have failed on borders then Reform gets a huge bump. No conservative leader can stop that.

Nolletimiere · 16/10/2025 12:52

Donald Trump could offer political asylum to Europeans who oppose migration.

The major overhaul of the American immigration system, some of which has already been implemented, would also give preference to English speakers and white South Africans.

The US president has spearheaded a major crackdown on immigration, suspending refugee admissions on his first day in office and announcing plans to slash the number of refugees allowed from 125,000 per year to 7,500.

TheNuthatch · 16/10/2025 13:02

This week's FON.
Blimey! Labour joint 3rd.

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