This poor woman. - why won't the NHS help her?

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I have to say, she is partly to blame for getting her implants from Turkey, but to be left in absolutely awful pain for months, and with no treatment in sight, it's a travesty in this modern world that this poor woman has to suffer as she is clearly in the worst pain and her physical and mental health must be at rock bottom.

Her TikTok account shows her story.

TikTok profile name: djabeyance

Basically, she's got a dreadful infection in her sinuses from the botched implants, which have led to necrosis and her nose is literally rotting away with a huge hole which is where her nostrils were (are?!)

Sorry to post such a sensitive topic, please be aware that it's quite distressing to see her nose.

I understand that the NHS and surgeons will not treat patients who've had any cosmetic surgery from abroad, due to litigation and the risk of any further complications, but it's madness to think this woman is left to suffer.

There’s a series of videos of her slating the NHS because they won’t diagnose necrotising fasciitis, when from my limited knowledge and all of the comments it’s clear she doesn’t have this.

I've had recent sepsis and for about the first 16 hours after admission they thought it could be necrotising fasciitis and told me so. From my (limited) knowledge if she had this she would definitely know, as to quote a medical friend "they start cutting", although it would be incredibly problematic in that area I imagine.

Why on earth she thinks this would be a diagnosis that helps her is baffling. On a human level I'm sorry she's in this state but she really does need to work with doctors not against them. If she'd paid heed to warnings before the surgery that led to this it wouldn't have happened it seems.

No,What? You have speculated, guessed and catastrophized about this
She has had treatment,assessment and intervention but not cosmetic procedures.
NHS is on it knees. ICB and NHS have to determine which conditions & treatment get funded and make very difficult decisions about which service is allocated monies from the fixed amount we have
These decisions include determining how much monies to allocate to Mental health, paediatrics, fertility treatment such as IVF, acute medicine, community teams, substance and alcohol services

However, it was also confirmed that she has an infection and flesh-eating virus called necrotizing fasciitis, which can be a severe and rare complication of tooth-related issues

This whole sentence just confirms she is an unreliable narrator who doesn't understand, or choose to confuse others about her condition.

Necrotizing fasciitis isn't a virus. It's also a medical emergency that results in death rapidly without extensive surgery and antibiotics.

Given she isn't dead, hasn't had vast areas of her face removed and a long stay in intensive care, she clearly hasn't got it.

Because lots of people are in a medical mess of their own making; from drink, smoking, poor eating choices, drugs, dangerous sports and activities or other potentially damaging behaviour.
NHS is supposed to treat everyone who’s entitled, not play god by deciding who deserves it.

The treatment necrosis fasciitis is swift you cut it out. Necrotising fasciitis is not a virus it’s a fast moving blood-borne infection it spreads really quickly and the tissue damage has the most god-awful putrid distinctive smell

I’m convinced there are friends of this lady on here trying to garner sympathy for this silly lady by changing the truth of her story.

There’s a big difference between unhealthy eating and risky sports and acting AGAINST medical advice.

She has had the treatment and assessment ,what she has not had is the cosmetic interventions that she feels are necessary. Services have guidance and protocol about what is and is not an appropriate intervention and treatment. Cosmetic restoration is not a necessary treatment or intervention.

Fair enough. I do understand how it needs to allocate treating those who need it most etc.

Yes, I probably have jumped to conclusions somewhat natively and of course I don't know the whole story. But there is no need to be so condescending in your replies.

I absolutely promise you, I don't have any connection at all.

Op, even your thread title is misleading….!

Agree with this. It’s abhorrent to me that there is this sentiment of some being more ‘worthy’ than treatment than others. It shouldn’t be a race to the bottom for everyone’s health and wellbeing! Of course she should have treatment. By this logic we should all stop holidays, drinking alcohol, smoking, buying UPF food, vaping; and have mandatory 2hrs exercise a week for every single adult. Not possible obviously.
Everyone should be treated in the same way with the same access to NHS services.

Arguably smoking, heavy drinking, unhealthy eating and risky behaviour are also actions against medical advice!

I suppose It is uncomfortable to hear that the NHS has a limited amount of money to do multiple procedures and interventions and difficult decisions are made about community, acute inpatient, mental health, paediatrics, IVF treatment. Think about it ,for example, most areas will offer fixed amount of IVF treatments and if that IVF unfortunately fails there will be no more free treatment and the couple will have to go to a private clinic and pay if they can afford it.

i’m not being condescending to you at all I’m really trying to explain that there is a limited amount of money to do a huge amount of things that asked for and that results in system of threshold criteria and determining what is funded,and what is not.

you’ve got all geared up about a story about a stranger that you’ve read online and a lot of your initial posts are indignant about what the NHS should do and what the NHS hasn’t done and how ridiculous the NHS is in its shortcomings

What empathy are we supposed to have for people who deliberately go against medical advice?

Those who wish for her to be treated can start a crowd funder. I won't be contributing

Sociopath is not a diagnosis. You’ve been doing too many crime shows

But why isn’t she going back and getting it sorted privately ?

They’re not refusing treatment, they’re refusing the treatment she is demanding.

Yep, I wanted one for a front (bottom) tooth. NOT available via NHS. My options were to pay for it privately or accept a denture or bridge. (NHS banding prices).

As they said I'd need bone taken from my thigh, I decided against an implant anyway, regardless of price, and went with a temporary denture then a bridge.

But I was told in no uncertain terms that an implant would not be available via the NHS, even from Whitechapel or Kings Cross dental hospitals (letting a student do it).

I mean, your title is misleading because it suggests the NHS isn't helping her. It looks like she's alive because they have helped, at least with the infection.

Does she deserve to die because she made a poor decision? Of course not. But she would have done without the NHS saving her so far.

I think anything she's making from her collection should go to the NHS if they're the ones who end up having to fix this.

I agree, her quality of life is reduced because of her choices here, and it would be wonderful if someone could fix it. The article suggests that the multiple NHS funded appointments she's had haven't been able to figure out how to fix it. I believe them over her; she seems willing to tell her own version of the truth here for likes and fundraising.

She probably won't be satisfied with the outcome though, because what I suspect will happen is that they will (hopefully) eventually figure out how to remove the rotting flesh/cartilage/ whatever but suspect they won't carry out the extensive plastic surgery she will want after.

Nobody is eligible dental implants on the NHS. Even if you are an NHS patient with an NHS dentist and you lost your teeth or had them removed due to tooth decay or other medical reasons such as cancer treatment which can ruin the patient's teeth and gums, the most you would be offered would be NHS dentures.

It's utterly ridiculous that this woman is threatening not to leave hospital until she is provided with a full set of implants on the NHS.

The nhs need to help her with the infection she has going on but to do that they need to remove the teeth and they rightly won’t. It’s been posted and proved by numerous friends and colleagues that she did cocaine and that’s why her nose is so bad too, even the clinic in Turkey said it. She’s also said she wants new teeth not dentures as only old people wear them apparently. The nhs need to sort her nose out once she’s got the implants out.

There’s a big difference between someone who is addicted to nicotine or alcohol and struggling to cut down and someone actively going against their dentist’s advice on a particular issue!

But as has been pointed out, she HAS been getting treatment on the NHS, just not the full reconstruction she wants.

She is being treated in the same way as others. No one can have implants on the NHS. She is receiving treatment for the other issues.
She will have to pay to have her implants removed and replaced, as will anyone else who needs similar treatment.