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Labour isn't working - Thread 12

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TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 23:28

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 14:53

The really interesting one is the result where Reform kept their vote share. So a bi-election triggered by a Reform councillor stepping down and they still return a Reform majority.

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 15:07

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 14:53

The really interesting one is the result where Reform kept their vote share. So a bi-election triggered by a Reform councillor stepping down and they still return a Reform majority.

That's quite something after just 15 months of a Labour government.

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twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:39

Scottish government opposes Digital ID

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Absentosaur · 10/10/2025 15:41

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:39

Scottish government opposes Digital ID

Blimey! What’s rattled their cage? Women can have penises but no one should have digital ID. Peculiar old bunch.

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:42

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 15:07

That's quite something after just 15 months of a Labour government.

Especially as the cultists still refuse to believe that these are ex-Labour voters even when the evidence proves them wrong. Updated chart below

Labour isn't working - Thread 12
TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 15:42

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:39

Scottish government opposes Digital ID

👏👏👏
Hopefully that will hurt Labour in Scotland.

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EasternStandard · 10/10/2025 15:43

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:39

Scottish government opposes Digital ID

Good though. I’ll take any opposition on that.

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:44

Absentosaur · 10/10/2025 15:41

Blimey! What’s rattled their cage? Women can have penises but no one should have digital ID. Peculiar old bunch.

🤣🤣 I reckon it's more about them taking unbridge at Westminster trying to tell them what to do.

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:44

EasternStandard · 10/10/2025 15:43

Good though. I’ll take any opposition on that.

Me too.
It's an insidious policy at the best of times but under these lot it's downright scary

Absentosaur · 10/10/2025 17:02

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 15:44

🤣🤣 I reckon it's more about them taking unbridge at Westminster trying to tell them what to do.

True true. Anything out of Westminster is bad, to them. A clocks’ right twice a day. The SNP too. Though I’ve only seen this once so far.

Catatemyhomework · 10/10/2025 17:40

Pearlyjam · 10/10/2025 12:23

I think that unfortunately, many leaders within the civil service are also incompetent. Too many have spent their entire careers in the public sector and lack a genuine understanding of how business and enterprise operate. They know how to spend, and often waste, public money, but not how to generate growth or drive efficiency.

Often people in the civil service are appointed/promoted not on merit but because the tick certain boxes, so we're not necessarily getting the best talent. I've seen examples of woefully incompetent people in very senior roles. They wouldn't last 5 minutes in the private sector.

Corruption is another issue altogether. From vote-rigging to self-serving behaviour, too many within the system act in their own interests rather than the public’s. This culture of impunity mirrors what we see among politicians, making it increasingly difficult to trust either group to act responsibly.

Both the civil service and political leadership are in my opinion, in desperate need of reform. We need an independent investigation to identify and root out corruption, ensuring that those unfit for public office are removed. Sadly, I doubt this would ever happen, at least not in my lifetime.

Running a country to me should be treated like running a major corporation: focused on results, accountability, and performance, not ideology. Unfortunately, that’s not what we’re seeing today. Under Starmer’s leadership, personal ideology appears to be driving decisions rather than practical governance and in my view, he's screwing up this country.

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Catatemyhomework · 10/10/2025 17:41

Sorry wrong quote. Was meant to be Absentosaur

Rivalled · 10/10/2025 17:46

The SNP are definitely centralising power grabbers
too, but they have a nose for what’s popular - they’re reading the room on this and deciding, rightly, that digital ID is a vote loser.

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:03

It will be interesting to see if Scottish Labour follow suit. They went against Starmer on WFA.

SNP leader has also backed calls for a pause on new arrivals of asylum seekers in Glasgow.

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upseedaisee · 10/10/2025 18:11

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:03

It will be interesting to see if Scottish Labour follow suit. They went against Starmer on WFA.

SNP leader has also backed calls for a pause on new arrivals of asylum seekers in Glasgow.

Well that's interesting. Weren't the SNP all for open borders when the conservatives were in government? I seem to recall their baldy gobshite berating the commons about it and Stodgy going all mother Teresa about the plight of asylum seekers and all are welcome to Scotland. Changed their tune haven't they?

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:15

upseedaisee · 10/10/2025 18:11

Well that's interesting. Weren't the SNP all for open borders when the conservatives were in government? I seem to recall their baldy gobshite berating the commons about it and Stodgy going all mother Teresa about the plight of asylum seekers and all are welcome to Scotland. Changed their tune haven't they?

Of course, but as @Rivalled said, they have a nose for which way the wind is blowing.

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TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:16

Plaid Cymru are also against digital ID.
I think that's every party opposing it now. Labour are on their own.

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EasternStandard · 10/10/2025 18:18

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:16

Plaid Cymru are also against digital ID.
I think that's every party opposing it now. Labour are on their own.

It really is Starmer and his cabal on this.

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 18:19

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:16

Plaid Cymru are also against digital ID.
I think that's every party opposing it now. Labour are on their own.

They will still try to force it through

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:19

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 18:12

FYI for our usual lurker: understanding that someone/party may be under a certain outside influence that is actually shaping harmful policies, is not tin foil hat territory.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-truth-about-the-fabian-society/

Are we being mined again?

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twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 18:21

TheNuthatch · 10/10/2025 18:19

Are we being mined again?

Seemingly so......this is how Farage must feel 🤣🤣

EasternStandard · 10/10/2025 18:37

upseedaisee · 10/10/2025 18:11

Well that's interesting. Weren't the SNP all for open borders when the conservatives were in government? I seem to recall their baldy gobshite berating the commons about it and Stodgy going all mother Teresa about the plight of asylum seekers and all are welcome to Scotland. Changed their tune haven't they?

Yes I thought that. What a change, what happened there?

Pearlyjam · 10/10/2025 18:40

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 18:12

FYI for our usual lurker: understanding that someone/party may be under a certain outside influence that is actually shaping harmful policies, is not tin foil hat territory.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-truth-about-the-fabian-society/

@twistyizzy the Fabian Society has loads of influence over Labour - their agenda of radical social reform is pretty terrifying. Their emblem used to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Now its a turtle to symbolise slow and gradual reform.

A lot of very powerful people are members like Governer of the Bank of England and Sadiq Khan who is Vice Chair. It's like the Freemasons but worse. Probably the reason why Khan gets away with doing such a shit job of running London - the 'Society' protects him.

twistyizzy · 10/10/2025 18:44

Pearlyjam · 10/10/2025 18:40

@twistyizzy the Fabian Society has loads of influence over Labour - their agenda of radical social reform is pretty terrifying. Their emblem used to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Now its a turtle to symbolise slow and gradual reform.

A lot of very powerful people are members like Governer of the Bank of England and Sadiq Khan who is Vice Chair. It's like the Freemasons but worse. Probably the reason why Khan gets away with doing such a shit job of running London - the 'Society' protects him.

Yep.
They also encourage disruption from within!
But seemingly I am tin foil hat for highlighting this 🙄

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