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Labour isn't working - Thread 11

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TheNuthatch · 29/09/2025 22:18

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:16

upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 08:10

Funny you mention this.
Me and my best mate nextdoor. he's six going on forty! were sitting on the wall discussing his school yesterday and I asked about the breakfast club and in his words.... "Oh I don't go to breakfast club for breakfast, the food is really bad and mum won't let me eat it." so I asked what was on offer. "white toast, hot dogs, sometimes cereal and fruit, sometimes not and you get milk."
Then his mum joined the conversation and said they have a very limited supply of decent food, so after the first 20 or so kids it's really only toast and jam left.
Yep, that would be a roaring success then! My best mate is a porridge boy, he's been brought up proper!

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Bless him.
Your best mate has more common sense than our Education Secretary.

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upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 08:21

TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:16

Bless him.
Your best mate has more common sense than our Education Secretary.

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That he does. He's an old soul and god he's bright. He was born on my 60th birthday. I do fear for his education going forward. His parents are discussing tutors as he's getting bored already.

LupaMoonhowl · 30/09/2025 08:23

Superiority complex.

They simply think they know best and will not listen to what people actually want.
They despise the working classes and the old/fashioned working class pride and concept of deferred gratification because they have had such an easy ride themselves.
They are contemptuous of white-van-man who has a trade - their policies (ILEZ/NI uplifts etc)
They are contemptuous of farmers.
Awful people.

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LaraLiving · 30/09/2025 08:24

What do you mean ‘don’t’ like labour?
the voters from last year aren’t suffering with buyers remorse in the slightest! 😌

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:26

LupaMoonhowl · 30/09/2025 08:23

Superiority complex.

They simply think they know best and will not listen to what people actually want.
They despise the working classes and the old/fashioned working class pride and concept of deferred gratification because they have had such an easy ride themselves.
They are contemptuous of white-van-man who has a trade - their policies (ILEZ/NI uplifts etc)
They are contemptuous of farmers.
Awful people.

Yet they constantly virtue signal their WC roots and poverty 🤮🤮
Bridge's mum couldn't afford to buy her a coat yet she had paid for music lessons?
Reeves said her family couldn't afford books yet her Dad was a Headteacher?

It's poverty porn.

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:27

upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 08:21

That he does. He's an old soul and god he's bright. He was born on my 60th birthday. I do fear for his education going forward. His parents are discussing tutors as he's getting bored already.

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He sounds like he has a bright future ahead of him.
No doubt our Bridge will want to tax tutoring soon. We can't be having bright kids getting extra help, that just won't do. 🙄

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EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 08:27

LaraLiving · 30/09/2025 08:24

What do you mean ‘don’t’ like labour?
the voters from last year aren’t suffering with buyers remorse in the slightest! 😌

Everything’s fine ;

Welcome to this lovely thread

StillFeelingTired · 30/09/2025 08:29

Love the sound of your best mate, @upseedaisee . He sounds a delight. Xx and he’s right.

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:30

LaraLiving · 30/09/2025 08:24

What do you mean ‘don’t’ like labour?
the voters from last year aren’t suffering with buyers remorse in the slightest! 😌

😂 Welcome 👋

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:32

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:26

Yet they constantly virtue signal their WC roots and poverty 🤮🤮
Bridge's mum couldn't afford to buy her a coat yet she had paid for music lessons?
Reeves said her family couldn't afford books yet her Dad was a Headteacher?

It's poverty porn.

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Poverty porn! I love that term.

Its so nauseating listening to them at conference trying to out out-poverty each other 🤮.

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Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:35

I remember when the breakfast club started at dcs’ school - where’s the porridge? Oh we can’t risk serving anything that hot as self serve and don’t have staff numbers to supervise….and that was back in the good old days.

so what are eating - white bread and a jam that’ll be mostly sugar. Of course, if you’re starving it’s good but when school dinners were first introduced they were good quality. Now we settle and settle and settle…

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:38

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:35

I remember when the breakfast club started at dcs’ school - where’s the porridge? Oh we can’t risk serving anything that hot as self serve and don’t have staff numbers to supervise….and that was back in the good old days.

so what are eating - white bread and a jam that’ll be mostly sugar. Of course, if you’re starving it’s good but when school dinners were first introduced they were good quality. Now we settle and settle and settle…

Shame.

My two loved porridge.

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:45

So cheap and nutritious,
east to make, versatile - and, beyond the capacity of a school breakfast club…

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:48

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:45

So cheap and nutritious,
east to make, versatile - and, beyond the capacity of a school breakfast club…

We used to serve porridge at the one I worked at. We also had scrambled eggs, w.m toast, yoghurt and fruit. Sometimes muesli.
Most of the kids who came had already eaten tbh, they were just there because their parents needed to work. The kids on FSM could attend for free, but they rarely did.

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Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:50

Oooh that’s amazing @TheNuthatch a proper breakfast - I wonder when the rules changed? Or if it’s a Scotland thing…

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/09/2025 08:51

TwistyTurnip · 30/09/2025 07:24

Good morning. Well, I’ve just woken up to the news that the chancellor is considering a 20% VAT charge on private health care. So if someone had just enough money to scrape together to pay for life saving treatment that they couldn’t get on the NHS, or that they need urgently, they will no longer be able to afford to do so. This will cost lives. And now millions who will now be priced out of private health care, will now need to use an already stretched NHS. It’s scary that people who are in charge of running the country would think up such a stupid idea.

It’s the ‘Old Labour’ mindset - if you can afford this or that, you are ‘rich’, not one of the ‘working people’ they love to bang on about, and so deserve all you get.

Julen7 · 30/09/2025 08:54

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/09/2025 08:51

It’s the ‘Old Labour’ mindset - if you can afford this or that, you are ‘rich’, not one of the ‘working people’ they love to bang on about, and so deserve all you get.

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Yes it’s working people - just not you, and you, and you.

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 09:08

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 08:50

Oooh that’s amazing @TheNuthatch a proper breakfast - I wonder when the rules changed? Or if it’s a Scotland thing…

I don't know.
That was over 15 years ago, things may have changed? As twisty said upthread, most schools already had a good one hour breakfast club available for a small fee, but free to those on low incomes. Labour have actually made them worse imo, with the added bonus of putting even more pressure on school budgets.

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upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 09:32

TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:27

He sounds like he has a bright future ahead of him.
No doubt our Bridge will want to tax tutoring soon. We can't be having bright kids getting extra help, that just won't do. 🙄

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If it comes to that, I'll help. Son doesn't want children, so my best mate is my investment for the future.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 09:46

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 09:40

Oooh Streeting has quashed the healthcare VAT - possibly the only one in that team with any political sense:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0knr2dmn4mo

Although Labour said they had complete faith in Mandelson, Rayner or whoever. Words are cheap!

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 09:46

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 09:40

Oooh Streeting has quashed the healthcare VAT - possibly the only one in that team with any political sense:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0knr2dmn4mo

Thanks. I was just about to post the same. A reprieve for this budget at least.

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Rivalled · 30/09/2025 09:53

I can’t believe it’s not even october
yet and the budget is end Nov….

Upstartled · 30/09/2025 09:54

It seems we are to all be terrorised by floated policies for weeks and weeks to come. Like a 101 of how to demoralise a population.

upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 10:07

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 09:53

I can’t believe it’s not even october
yet and the budget is end Nov….

If you remember, the original date for the budget was going to be the end of October, then she moved it. So I'm wondering if there's some sort of financial announcement that she's waiting to receive and then go with plan A or plan B.

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