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Labour isn't working - Thread 11

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TheNuthatch · 29/09/2025 22:18

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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NoWordForFluffy · 01/10/2025 00:21

justasking111 · 30/09/2025 22:39

I've made a bet with myself that his wife will leave him when he's booted out.

For some reason it caught my eye the other week that he wasn't wearing his wedding ring when he used to. Not sure if it was a one off, as I'm not that arsed about his marital status!

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twistyizzy · 01/10/2025 07:12

Funded by taxing international students ie the ones who keep our universities afloat 🙄🙄 If we lose international students then there won't be any universities.

Ffs they are ridiculous 🙄

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749vnylk1jo

A group of students walk outside a campus building. In the foreground, one female student is showing her phone to another female student and a male student pushing a bicycle. In the background, a male and female student walk together separate from the...

Maintenance grants to return for some students

The support will be available to those on "priority courses", with more detail to come in the autumn Budget.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749vnylk1jo

EasternStandard · 01/10/2025 07:14

twistyizzy · 01/10/2025 07:12

Funded by taxing international students ie the ones who keep our universities afloat 🙄🙄 If we lose international students then there won't be any universities.

Ffs they are ridiculous 🙄

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749vnylk1jo

Universities are already struggling. They’re mad.

strawberrybubblegum · 01/10/2025 07:16

Upstartled · 30/09/2025 21:30

Sure: Cut and paste because I'm out of shares till tomorrow:

"She said: “I think we have got some of the language not right on this, and particularly around some of the guidance that’s coming forward.
“I really strongly feel like we need a robust and transparent parliamentary conversation about that, because when we’re looking at applying the law as parliamentarians, we should have a say on that and that’s something I’ll be pushing for as well.”
Sources close to Ms Powell said she believed MPs should have the power to influence the rules because they will become law."

No, Lucy.

Parliamentarians don't apply the law. And it's fairly fundamental to our separation of powers that you don't get a say in that.

Your responsibility as legislature is to make the laws.

A previous legislature passed the Equality Act. And you still need to abide by those previously made laws, even though you're now the government.

Sure, you can try to bring in other laws to supercede the existing ones. But you don't get to just disregard them in a tantrum, just because you're 'in power'. It's not that kind of power.

Does this same lack of understanding pervade Labour? Does this explain other 'flexible' interpretations of e.g. tax laws about stamp duty?

MantleStatue · 01/10/2025 07:17

justasking111 · 30/09/2025 22:39

I've made a bet with myself that his wife will leave him when he's booted out.

TBF I always said that about Carla Bruni and Sarkozy. I remain amazed that that appears to have stuck.

I can't recall which Friday night comedy show it was, but several weeks ago on BBC Radio 4 they were taking the piss royally out of Lammy. They called it 'Doing a Lammy' which meant when sheer utter nonsense spews out of someone's mouth. At the time I was open-mouthed because this was the BBC!

Lutonsgirl · 01/10/2025 07:20

strawberrybubblegum · 30/09/2025 22:27

Standard male bullying tactic to undermine uppity women they don't like.

They are so transparently misogynistic.

I really hate how Starmer talks to Kemi at PMQs...its so patronising...then he gets a question from Ed Davey and he's all normal again.

Edited to add by normal I don't mean the normal person's normal.

Parsley4321 · 01/10/2025 07:24

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EasternStandard · 01/10/2025 07:27

Lutonsgirl · 01/10/2025 07:20

I really hate how Starmer talks to Kemi at PMQs...its so patronising...then he gets a question from Ed Davey and he's all normal again.

Edited to add by normal I don't mean the normal person's normal.

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Same he’s a patronising bully. To Kemi mostly but misogyny is rife generally.

Absentosaur · 01/10/2025 07:28

Lutonsgirl · 01/10/2025 07:20

I really hate how Starmer talks to Kemi at PMQs...its so patronising...then he gets a question from Ed Davey and he's all normal again.

Edited to add by normal I don't mean the normal person's normal.

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Agreed. He’s misogynistic and racist. He judges others by his own standards. As we’ve seen with his judgement of reform supporters (that he’s tried to fudge he didn’t ever say or think cos he’s a patriot and everything).

Absentosaur · 01/10/2025 07:30

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Bi now gay later.
We’ll see.
it’s not an issue, his sexuality. Who cares. It is an issue he’s a liar. A big issue.

DancingFerret · 01/10/2025 07:30

The Telegraph on Starmer's "own goal".

https://archive.ph/Nvci9

Absentosaur · 01/10/2025 07:31

The grants will be targeted at those "studying priority courses that support the industrial strategy and the Labour government's wider mission to renew Britain".

What a lot of gobbledegook. Urgh.

Absentosaur · 01/10/2025 07:34

DancingFerret · 01/10/2025 07:30

The Telegraph on Starmer's "own goal".

https://archive.ph/Nvci9

Rather than putting an arm around working-class reform voters by telling them they have every right to be worried about migration, he has punched them in the face.

Exactly. He’s so very stupid. As are his supporters who think his speech was erm.. good.. the lack of critical thinking is so widespread it’s normal. So they don’t see it. Scary stuff.

ACynicalDad · 01/10/2025 07:35

Normally Labour screw economy, Tories sort it, cycle repeats. It’s rare Labour take over a bad one, but they’re going to agree it further and potentially hand it in to Reform, oh what joy.

TheNuthatch · 01/10/2025 07:36

Lutonsgirl · 01/10/2025 07:20

I really hate how Starmer talks to Kemi at PMQs...its so patronising...then he gets a question from Ed Davey and he's all normal again.

Edited to add by normal I don't mean the normal person's normal.

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Yes, I've said the same many times. You're right that he responds totally differently to men, even when they are having a go at him.

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TheNuthatch · 01/10/2025 07:39

ACynicalDad · 01/10/2025 07:35

Normally Labour screw economy, Tories sort it, cycle repeats. It’s rare Labour take over a bad one, but they’re going to agree it further and potentially hand it in to Reform, oh what joy.

Labour only have one MO, that's to spend. Maybe that's why they're malfunctioning.

Welcome.

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NoWordForFluffy · 01/10/2025 07:41

ACynicalDad · 01/10/2025 07:35

Normally Labour screw economy, Tories sort it, cycle repeats. It’s rare Labour take over a bad one, but they’re going to agree it further and potentially hand it in to Reform, oh what joy.

This is what worries me: Reform simply don't appear to be economically literate. There is no way all of their promises can be funded.

Other things bother me about Reform too, but that's a biggie!

EasternStandard · 01/10/2025 07:45

ACynicalDad · 01/10/2025 07:35

Normally Labour screw economy, Tories sort it, cycle repeats. It’s rare Labour take over a bad one, but they’re going to agree it further and potentially hand it in to Reform, oh what joy.

Yes a high borrow and spend party after a pandemic and war is a bad idea. As we’re seeing unfold.

strawberrybubblegum · 01/10/2025 07:46

twistyizzy · 01/10/2025 07:12

Funded by taxing international students ie the ones who keep our universities afloat 🙄🙄 If we lose international students then there won't be any universities.

Ffs they are ridiculous 🙄

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749vnylk1jo

"We should not be charging international students, who often come from countries much poorer than the UK, to cover the living costs of our own home students," he said."

Don't worry, I'm sure that by the time the Labour backbenchers finish with it, it will be the children of the 'Broad shouldered' who will be paying for their poorer peers... and then will have to pay off yet for £10s of thousands of student debt over their working lives: penalised for their parents' income regardless of their own future income. Sins of the father/mother mean they are penalised for life.

EasternStandard · 01/10/2025 07:48

twistyizzy · 01/10/2025 07:47

Labour peer personally apologises to Farage for Lammy's comments "I'm ashamed"

https://x.com/brexitblog_info/status/1973143868091613330?t=XHSHYSovIEyDxNlx1EpkHQ&s=19

Times Radio good on this rn. Talking about the co ordinated attack from Labour. Baseless inflammatory language.

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