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Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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Confused78 · 25/09/2025 21:50

They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

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cardibach · 02/10/2025 22:17

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 21:59

The state offering will collapse if we don’t tax non state education? This doesn’t make any sense.

I have a general rule that once people start saying privilege and you don’t care about insert identity then they’ve got no argument so it’s not really worth continuing. However you didn’t say equality, equity or call me racist so am willing to give you one more chance to put forward a rational argument for taxing children’s education and why you don’t consider it immoral. One more chance !

That’s not what I said. I said it will collapse if Reform are in charge. Their plans are uncosted and education, the NHS and other state offerings will have no chance.
You’re condescending again. Willing to give me one more chance? Who do you think you are? I’ve explained my views. I won’t be bothering engaging with you again. Your tone towards me is pretty objectionable. I wouldn’t talk to. Ransom in the pub with that time, and I won’t do it online either.

inertia123 · 02/10/2025 22:18

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:11

Ok but that's not what culling something means and I think you know that. When farmers cull badgers they aren't asking them nicely to go to another field.

Culling

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Culling
Culling is the process of segregating organisms from a group according to desired or undesired characteristics.

cardibach · 02/10/2025 22:19

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:07

18% of 6th formers are privately educated.

And? 7% in total. 18% is still a tiny minority anyway.
You all know you are buying privilege or you wouldn’t bother spending the money.

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RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:22

cardibach · 02/10/2025 22:17

That’s not what I said. I said it will collapse if Reform are in charge. Their plans are uncosted and education, the NHS and other state offerings will have no chance.
You’re condescending again. Willing to give me one more chance? Who do you think you are? I’ve explained my views. I won’t be bothering engaging with you again. Your tone towards me is pretty objectionable. I wouldn’t talk to. Ransom in the pub with that time, and I won’t do it online either.

That’s was a disappointing response considering I’d made an exception for you. You’ve wasted an opportunity to potentially convince a would be Reform voter that taxing children’s education is a great idea and will soon catch on in the rest of the developed world.

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:24

EasternStandard · 02/10/2025 22:17

Only Labour like VAT on education, so it could be gone by next GE. That and digital ID, no other party likes that either. Both terrible policies.

VAT on private education probably win the election for Labour and Digital ID is popular with most people. The latter is free for British nationals. Win win.

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:25

cardibach · 02/10/2025 22:19

And? 7% in total. 18% is still a tiny minority anyway.
You all know you are buying privilege or you wouldn’t bother spending the money.

And how do you define ‘privilege’?

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:27

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:22

That’s was a disappointing response considering I’d made an exception for you. You’ve wasted an opportunity to potentially convince a would be Reform voter that taxing children’s education is a great idea and will soon catch on in the rest of the developed world.

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Name me any other European country that has private education that is VAT free.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:29

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:24

VAT on private education probably win the election for Labour and Digital ID is popular with most people. The latter is free for British nationals. Win win.

But now we have the evidence that VAT on private schools was lose lose for the exchequer and the state school system. The only winners are those who that glee in other people not having shiny things they can't afford. It would economic self harm not to reverse the policy.

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:31

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:24

VAT on private education probably win the election for Labour and Digital ID is popular with most people. The latter is free for British nationals. Win win.

Labour won the election this time, cos they turned up. Won’t happen again tho.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:32

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:27

Name me any other European country that has private education that is VAT free.

You can take your pick. New Zealand and the UK are the only countries in the world that charge VAT on private education.

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:32

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:24

VAT on private education probably win the election for Labour and Digital ID is popular with most people. The latter is free for British nationals. Win win.

Mass and illegal immigration, the employer NIC increase, property tax, social media policing, generational farmer tax, benefit ballooning and increase in DEI schemes are also vote winners. Labour shoyjd just ignore the polls, they’ve got nothing to worry about.

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:33

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:31

Labour won the election this time, cos they turned up. Won’t happen again tho.

Reform won't win. The Tories won't win.

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:33

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:32

Mass and illegal immigration, the employer NIC increase, property tax, social media policing, generational farmer tax, benefit ballooning and increase in DEI schemes are also vote winners. Labour shoyjd just ignore the polls, they’ve got nothing to worry about.

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😂😂

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:34

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:33

Reform won't win. The Tories won't win.

I have a feeling you might be disappointed.

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:35

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:33

Reform won't win. The Tories won't win.

In 4yrs time, I think the Conservatives will be back in. They’ll be the only cogent option.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:36

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:33

😂😂

And next month when they put VAT up to 25%, like the nordics, everyone will rejoicing.

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:36

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:33

Reform won't win. The Tories won't win.

You should put a bet on. It’s 2/1 on Labour winning the next GE at the moment, you’ll double your money. It’s 11/10 for Reform to win, but what do bookies know eh?

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:37

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:36

You should put a bet on. It’s 2/1 on Labour winning the next GE at the moment, you’ll double your money. It’s 11/10 for Reform to win, but what do bookies know eh?

I wonder if how many Labour MPs have taken leaf out the Tories book and already placed their bets for a bit a redundancy boast.

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:38

Absentosaur · 02/10/2025 22:35

In 4yrs time, I think the Conservatives will be back in. They’ll be the only cogent option.

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My guess is some sort of Tory/Reform hybrid. Labour are out for the next 20 odd years now.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:39

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:38

My guess is some sort of Tory/Reform hybrid. Labour are out for the next 20 odd years now.

To be fair people said that about the Tories. The one thing that Stamer has demonstrated is that even with a large majority you can fuck up pretty fast.

inertia123 · 02/10/2025 22:42

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:39

To be fair people said that about the Tories. The one thing that Stamer has demonstrated is that even with a large majority you can fuck up pretty fast.

They haven't fucked up. They've been left a mess by the Tories and Farage's arse-licking press are doing a fine job in spinning the narrative.

Labour have increased larger employers' NI contributions, asked for millionaire farmers to pay inheritance tax and introduced VAT on private schooling. Boo bloody hoo.

placemats · 02/10/2025 22:45

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 22:32

You can take your pick. New Zealand and the UK are the only countries in the world that charge VAT on private education.

Well under EU law, VAT is not allowed on private schools. However the UK is no longer part of the EU. Thanks Nigel!

EasternStandard · 02/10/2025 22:47

inertia123 · 02/10/2025 22:42

They haven't fucked up. They've been left a mess by the Tories and Farage's arse-licking press are doing a fine job in spinning the narrative.

Labour have increased larger employers' NI contributions, asked for millionaire farmers to pay inheritance tax and introduced VAT on private schooling. Boo bloody hoo.

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Well yeh those things are poor policies and we can see drop in growth, loss of jobs and hike in borrowing costs to go with it. Maybe for people in immune jobs it’s ok.

RainOnMePolly · 02/10/2025 22:48

inertia123 · 02/10/2025 22:42

They haven't fucked up. They've been left a mess by the Tories and Farage's arse-licking press are doing a fine job in spinning the narrative.

Labour have increased larger employers' NI contributions, asked for millionaire farmers to pay inheritance tax and introduced VAT on private schooling. Boo bloody hoo.

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Labour have increase larger employers' NI contributions, asked for millionaire farmers to pay inheritance tax and introduced VAT on private schooling. Boo bloody hoo

That’s the spirit, sell Labours policies and explain the benefits. We wouldn’t want people thinking they’re just poorly thought out ideological spite policies would we.

inertia123 · 02/10/2025 22:48

I thought people were against benefits? Or is it only the Hooray Henrys who so desperately need them?

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