Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Labour isn't working - Thread 10

994 replies

TheNuthatch · 24/09/2025 11:33

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5411817-labour-isnt-working-thread-9?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

OP posts:
Thread gallery
66
TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:05

JustStopItNorasaurus · 27/09/2025 17:51

It's strange really. I am a lawyer and DH is always a bit snarky about lawyers because he says we can't usually see beyond our training. In other words if you go into law you tend to have a respect for the law which is then embedded in and you forget that those around you tend not to give a shit about law- especially if you are in criminal law.

Every so often (increasingly often) I explode with 'Starmer's a fucking moron' and he says 'well he can't be a moron, because he is a barrister and you have to be pretty smart'.

So this week we discussed it in depth. I maintain KS is a bit of an idiot. DH says he's not an idiot, he's just greedy, craven and amoral.

You and your DH are both right. He's all of those things.

OP posts:
TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:07

EasternStandard · 27/09/2025 18:01

Ik I just don’t have the energy for that stuff, it seems like it’s stuck in June 2024

I'm staying on here for the foreseeable. They might start hyperventilating tomorrow when they hear the word comrade 😂

OP posts:
Absentosaur · 27/09/2025 18:08

Agreed.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:10

Absentosaur · 27/09/2025 18:08

Agreed.

We've both done a shift 😂.
There are none so blind etc.

OP posts:
Absentosaur · 27/09/2025 18:11

TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:00

They are still defending him 🤯
I don't know what more they need to see before they admit how wrong they were.

It’s impossible to reason with left wing loyalists. They never admit they are wrong even when the truth is staring them in the face. Criticising anyone who disagrees with them is what they are best at. As we’re seeing here on MN.

Absentosaur · 27/09/2025 18:12

TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:10

We've both done a shift 😂.
There are none so blind etc.

😂😂🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

upseedaisee · 27/09/2025 18:12

Absentosaur · 27/09/2025 16:00

..

🤣🤣🤣

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 27/09/2025 18:14

Lutonsgirl · 27/09/2025 18:01

They have become obsessed with Farage and reform. Probably because they cannot face up to reality of what Starmer is.

Yes, I’ve noticed that.

The Christ Complex is getting a good outing on the Labour thread. Telling MN how they just must go and protest and show their care for the oppressed, and just how sick they all feel about injustice. Oh woe is me. 🙄

There’s a sudden loss of appetite among Labour MN fans to defend this wretched government. Presumably because that would look like sending praise to the captain of the Titanic, as the water rushed in.

upseedaisee · 27/09/2025 18:16

strawberrybubblegum · 27/09/2025 16:32

Many get customers to buy the materials.

Yep. My decorator does it that way and only takes cash. The chippy I use also asks you to get the materials, as does the electrician though they both like to be paid by bank transfer. So basically, I'm just paying for their time.

DancingFerret · 27/09/2025 18:40

I was half-listening to a R4 programme earlier today; one of thr points for discussion was what will be the main focus of the Labour conference. According to one commentator, KS will mainly be attempting to put a fly in the ointment of Reform's seemingly unstoppable rise in popularity.

If that prediction is only slightly correct, it explains why vainglorious KS is such a rotten PM. All that he holds dear is his image and the rest of the job is but a sideline.

Lutonsgirl · 27/09/2025 18:45

DancingFerret · 27/09/2025 18:40

I was half-listening to a R4 programme earlier today; one of thr points for discussion was what will be the main focus of the Labour conference. According to one commentator, KS will mainly be attempting to put a fly in the ointment of Reform's seemingly unstoppable rise in popularity.

If that prediction is only slightly correct, it explains why vainglorious KS is such a rotten PM. All that he holds dear is his image and the rest of the job is but a sideline.

They could do that by their actions. Why waste their conference talking about reform ( didn't ed davey do just that)

upseedaisee · 27/09/2025 18:49

Lutonsgirl · 27/09/2025 18:45

They could do that by their actions. Why waste their conference talking about reform ( didn't ed davey do just that)

As has been said time and again, Nigel Farage is living in their heads rent free and Reform are thoroughly enjoying the free advertising.

EasternStandard · 27/09/2025 18:50

upseedaisee · 27/09/2025 18:49

As has been said time and again, Nigel Farage is living in their heads rent free and Reform are thoroughly enjoying the free advertising.

Edited

Absolutely. Free exposure, it has value to whoever gets it.

TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:54

DancingFerret · 27/09/2025 18:40

I was half-listening to a R4 programme earlier today; one of thr points for discussion was what will be the main focus of the Labour conference. According to one commentator, KS will mainly be attempting to put a fly in the ointment of Reform's seemingly unstoppable rise in popularity.

If that prediction is only slightly correct, it explains why vainglorious KS is such a rotten PM. All that he holds dear is his image and the rest of the job is but a sideline.

Madness.
If Labour were doing a good job, Reform wouldn't be so popular 🤷‍♂️.
They need to get their own house in order if they want to improve polling.

OP posts:
TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:56

Lutonsgirl · 27/09/2025 18:45

They could do that by their actions. Why waste their conference talking about reform ( didn't ed davey do just that)

Yep. It was painful to listen to.

OP posts:
Lutonsgirl · 27/09/2025 18:57

TheNuthatch · 27/09/2025 18:56

Yep. It was painful to listen to.

I wondering if I can bear to listen to his speech !

NoWordForFluffy · 27/09/2025 19:01

JustStopItNorasaurus · 27/09/2025 17:51

It's strange really. I am a lawyer and DH is always a bit snarky about lawyers because he says we can't usually see beyond our training. In other words if you go into law you tend to have a respect for the law which is then embedded in and you forget that those around you tend not to give a shit about law- especially if you are in criminal law.

Every so often (increasingly often) I explode with 'Starmer's a fucking moron' and he says 'well he can't be a moron, because he is a barrister and you have to be pretty smart'.

So this week we discussed it in depth. I maintain KS is a bit of an idiot. DH says he's not an idiot, he's just greedy, craven and amoral.

I'm a solicitor and I'm with you. The man's an idiot!

upseedaisee · 27/09/2025 19:09

Trouble in paradise it would seem.

The boss of Unite, Labour's biggest union funder, has threatened to break its link with the party unless it changes direction.
Sharon Graham, general secretary of the union, told Sky News that, on the eve of a crucial party conference for the prime minister, Unite's support for Labour was hanging in the balance.

Unite boss Sharon Graham threatens to break link with Labour on eve of conference | Politics News | Sky News

Unite - The Latest News from the UK and Around the World | Sky News

Sky News - First for Breaking News, video, headlines, analysis and top stories from business, politics, entertainment and more in the UK and worldwide.

https://news.sky.com/topic/unite-5874/1

Upstartled · 27/09/2025 19:15

Every time Labour opens their mouth and talks about how dreadful Reform are they are simply advertising that it is a party that is offering something completely different to them and everything they stand for.

And, as in the LibDem conference, it might offer an lazy opportunity to stay on safe ground - something the whole room can get behind when they are currently so bitterly divided, it's naive for them to think it won't have a cost outside their comrade walls.

Meanwhile, Starmer needs to fight off Burnham, Reeves needs to assure the circling bond traders that she has a grip of things (no crying please), while Burnham lies that the creditors are irrelevant and that the milky bars a Oh, and that petition re on him.

What a car crash. Oh, and that petition is almost at 2 million.

CruCru · 27/09/2025 19:18

Upstartled · 27/09/2025 15:25

I mean, it's not Angela's Ashes but it's not like she's doing a Jenny from the Block. I was expecting something more scandalous than her mum selling her ex-council home for £100k, thirty years after buying it.

I still don't agree with her ideology and the policies but it's clear the Daily Mail are gunning for her in a way that seems a bit 🤷🏼‍♀️

I agree. Goodness knows I’m not a fan but buying her council house for whatever the price was and selling it years later is not all that surprising. Plus, are we really going to judge people on the actions of their parents?

Boohoo76 · 27/09/2025 19:19

NoWordForFluffy · 27/09/2025 19:01

I'm a solicitor and I'm with you. The man's an idiot!

Me three! I am flabbergasted that he is a KC and was DPP…he is crap at public speaking.

Upstartled · 27/09/2025 19:26

🙄 Milky bars are on him...Trying to type and cook dinner.

NoWordForFluffy · 27/09/2025 19:26

Boohoo76 · 27/09/2025 19:19

Me three! I am flabbergasted that he is a KC and was DPP…he is crap at public speaking.

What I have learned from watching various court cases online is that many KCs can barely string a sentence together! 🤷‍♀️ The prorogation hearing was very much a painful and excruciating case in point. 😬

amicisimma · 27/09/2025 19:33

Ben Wallace writing in The Telegraph about the ID card plan, which he doesn't seem to be against, discusses the proposal of ID under Tony Blair.

Regarding what he describes as a 'fatal flaw in that policy that hopefully Keir Starmer will not repeat':

beyond proving your ID, 'the policy proposed in 2006 established a "live database" that not only stored the nation's IDs, but recorded when they were checked. In other words, it logged an individual's pattern of life which the security services could have access to.'

Not just the security services, anyone who could get permission, or hack their way into the system, could also access the records of who used the ID for checks, when and for what.

twistyizzy · 27/09/2025 19:35

Sorry All just catching up.

The level of batshittery defending of Starmer and Labour is mind blowing 🤯 Every single piece of evidence shows how shit they are yet the cultists continually refuse to acknowledge.

Swipe left for the next trending thread