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Tommy Robinson, Hitler and wooden crosses

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noblegiraffe · 12/09/2025 16:33

Tommy Robinson is having his 'Festival of Free Speech' in London tomorrow.

I'm also seeing attempts on social media to rehabilitate his image as a 'concerned citizen' and pleas from him to keep things civil, not wear masks and not drink alcohol. Jolly good.

So let's be clear that he has also posted an image promoting his 'free speech festival' standing with Ant Middleton next to a bus, number 88. The far right will be well aware of the use of the number 88 to denote 'Heil Hitler' where H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. This is not an accident.

He has also posted on social media that he is planning to bring a large number of wooden crosses to his 'free speech festival'. This would appear to be an odd choice for a free speech festival but makes more sense if you want to bang on about how England is a Christian Country and Muslims are Not Welcome.

Either way, he is trying to appeal to a wider crowd while at the same time signalling to his racist contingent that it's business as usual.

Tommy Robinson, Hitler and wooden crosses
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Piggywaspushed · 12/09/2025 19:08

LeavesOnTheLines · 12/09/2025 18:41

Some Jewish organisations are funding him. He’s been invited to and has visited Israel. You can pretend he hates Jews and Jews hate him if you like but it’s completely untrue.

I presume you have looked into those 'some organisations'?

Fabrikick · 12/09/2025 19:09

Im confused why there would be any doubt to the intent of this match to be fair. Its not like its ever been subtle is it.

Bringmeahigherlove · 12/09/2025 19:10

OverlyFragrant · 12/09/2025 16:37

I'm absolutely not a fan of the man, and come from family that suffered alot at the hands of fascists, but even I can see the 88 bus claim is a bit of a stretch.

It’s really not though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33634656.amp

Austrian number plate

Austria bans 'hidden' neo-Nazi codes on car number plates - BBC News

Austria cracks down on personalised number plates used by neo-Nazis, by banning lesser-known codes with hidden far-right symbolism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33634656.amp

Piggywaspushed · 12/09/2025 19:11

This is the JDL

https://hopenothate.org.uk/chapter/jewish-defence-league-network/

It's an entirely different, and extremist, organisation. They do , indeed have links with Robinson.

The group has been described by the FBI as “a known violent extremist Jewish organization”

Ketzele · 12/09/2025 19:11

Can people really not see how rabble-rousers of all persuasion use being pro or anti Israel as a dog whistle?

I have known since my late teens that someone's avowed zionism (or antizionism) does not in itself tell me anything about their antisemitism. Zionism is a tactic for this man.

One of the tragedies of Israel is that we are polarised politically from people who are our genetic and cultural cousins. Jews are not safe with Islamophobes.

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:13

It's called 'Free Speech Rally / Unite the Kingdom,' though I doubt pro-open borders peoplle will get the mic, so it's not really true free speech. I'm also unsure which kingdom he's uniting—he's previously said he doesn't mind non-Muslim immigration but seems to have softened that stance a little because he said in an interview lately that Muslims are fine if they integrate. That doesn't really align with Nazi views or even right-wing, does it? I think people are worried about the country and he's a voice for those people. Maybe they're being a bit misled. IDK. Looking at what's become of America and other western European countries, I'm starting to conclude, albeit with a heavy heart, that we need to go back to pre-Blair demographics. Otherwise, we'll keep fighting about this stuff and there will be an increasing clamp down on free speech in order to stop society from erupting every other month. Society just works better that way, and everyone feels a more secure.

Bringmeahigherlove · 12/09/2025 19:15

TatisnaBannoffeeeeBanana · 12/09/2025 18:34

I'm no Tommy Robinson fan or hater. He seems like an alright bloke but he's not a Nazi. He's a self-styled Zionist and a known supporter of Israel and has been for years. He founded the English Defence League which was originally registered as the Jewish Defence League and he has been photographed wearing the Israeli flag on multiple occasions. Calling him a Nazi is quite the a stretch!

Considering the killer of Charlie Kirk inscribed anti-fascist messages on bullets, maybe it's time we reconsider labelling everyone conservative, vaguely right wing or people away disagree with Nazi. It seems to have lost its meaning.
The bus thing is a coincidence.

The Internet is making people already prone to conspiracy theories and seeing secret messages in things go bonkers. Re the crosses we're a culturally Christian country built on Christianity even if no one attends church anymore, there are already churches and crosses everywhere you probably walk past a few to and from work and you've survived so far! He said he likes Sikhs so I'm sure there will be a variety of people from different ethnicities and religious backgrounds.

My suspicious is that he's doing what he does because he makes money out of it and enjoys the celeb status. He asked fans to donate £27,000 for a Maori Haka at his event tomorrow and gave one reason for including them being that they are anti-Muslim. I don't want Britain to become Islamic for one reason that I find the religion sexist, but Maori have high domestic violence rates so that seems like an odd choice. But maybe it's like a Britain's Got Talent situation. I'm not even sure what the 13th event is about?? The Telegraph said something about it being for "Football Lads"...? Football lads and Maori...?

He’s a white supremacist who uses Nazi slogans/symbolism to promote his racist ideology. What part of that makes him an alright bloke??

PandoraSocks · 12/09/2025 19:15

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:13

It's called 'Free Speech Rally / Unite the Kingdom,' though I doubt pro-open borders peoplle will get the mic, so it's not really true free speech. I'm also unsure which kingdom he's uniting—he's previously said he doesn't mind non-Muslim immigration but seems to have softened that stance a little because he said in an interview lately that Muslims are fine if they integrate. That doesn't really align with Nazi views or even right-wing, does it? I think people are worried about the country and he's a voice for those people. Maybe they're being a bit misled. IDK. Looking at what's become of America and other western European countries, I'm starting to conclude, albeit with a heavy heart, that we need to go back to pre-Blair demographics. Otherwise, we'll keep fighting about this stuff and there will be an increasing clamp down on free speech in order to stop society from erupting every other month. Society just works better that way, and everyone feels a more secure.

I'm starting to conclude, albeit with a heavy heart, that we need to go back to pre-Blair demographics

What do you mean by this and how do you propose achieving it?

Piggywaspushed · 12/09/2025 19:15

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:13

It's called 'Free Speech Rally / Unite the Kingdom,' though I doubt pro-open borders peoplle will get the mic, so it's not really true free speech. I'm also unsure which kingdom he's uniting—he's previously said he doesn't mind non-Muslim immigration but seems to have softened that stance a little because he said in an interview lately that Muslims are fine if they integrate. That doesn't really align with Nazi views or even right-wing, does it? I think people are worried about the country and he's a voice for those people. Maybe they're being a bit misled. IDK. Looking at what's become of America and other western European countries, I'm starting to conclude, albeit with a heavy heart, that we need to go back to pre-Blair demographics. Otherwise, we'll keep fighting about this stuff and there will be an increasing clamp down on free speech in order to stop society from erupting every other month. Society just works better that way, and everyone feels a more secure.

Who is everyone?

EchoedSilence · 12/09/2025 19:19

He's a racist thug.Anyone going to his 'free speech festival' is also a racist. That's me free speaking.

BeMellowAquaSquid · 12/09/2025 19:21

I wonder what his Mum thinks.

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:25

Jews aren't behind poor white people worried about mass migration. That's a ridiculous accusation. According to a Google search Tommy has received money from Russian supporters. So are the Russians provoking people in Essex to protest outside migrant hotels or is it more likely to be Human Nature? I think the problem is mass migration. People who have ancestors on the British Isles going back hundreds of years are afraid that they are losing their one homeland because of extreme immigration policy and don't know what the future holds. Most countries would go to great (and likely horrifying) lengths to not do what Britain has done to the English, Welsh and Scottish.

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:28

PandoraSocks · 12/09/2025 19:15

I'm starting to conclude, albeit with a heavy heart, that we need to go back to pre-Blair demographics

What do you mean by this and how do you propose achieving it?

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Remigration.

OverlyFragrant · 12/09/2025 19:32

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:28

Remigration.

That horse has long bolted.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 12/09/2025 19:57

EchoedSilence · 12/09/2025 19:19

He's a racist thug.Anyone going to his 'free speech festival' is also a racist. That's me free speaking.

And I totally agree with you.

SeaAndStars · 12/09/2025 20:14

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:28

Remigration.

They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right wing meetings.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 12/09/2025 20:19

SeaAndStars · 12/09/2025 20:14

They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right wing meetings.

Hey boy they shout have you got any money.
I say I've got some money and a takeaway curry I'm on the way home to my wife.
Excellent record.👍

DuncinToffee · 12/09/2025 20:36

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 19:28

Remigration.

That is a far right ideology

Fearfulsaints · 12/09/2025 20:47

Im hoping the predicted bad weather makes this a non event

checme · 12/09/2025 20:51

"This would appear to be an odd choice for a free speech festival but makes more sense if you want to bang on about how England is a Christian Country and Muslims are Not Welcome."

I watched an interview with him on Youtube and he's pretty clear that he does think Muslims shouldn't be welcome in the UK, also see Stacey Dooley's show about Luton in which he appears (she grew up with Tommy Robinson). It's a big focus of the right wing nationalists at the moment. They are claiming not to be racist and just saying Islam is incompatible with the UK and the West in general and are even developing links with people and groups from other ethnic backgrounds. Robinson converted to Catholicism this year and is really attempting to set out his stall as a concerned Christian.

He also appears to get his backing and funding from some diverse sources

Revealed: the hidden global network behind Tommy Robinson | Tommy Robinson | The Guardian

He's a puppet for someone or something.

Tommy Robinson finds God

Tommy Robinson finds God

How Britain’s far right is embracing Christianity

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/far-right/70518/tommy-robinson-finds-god

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 20:51

DuncinToffee · 12/09/2025 20:36

That is a far right ideology

As is keeping men out of women's changing rooms apparently. I guess all that's left to say to the accusation of being far-right is "And?"
I've voted Labour for most of my life but...OK...this is the world we live in now

Piggywaspushed · 12/09/2025 20:52

Weather set to be OK tomorrow in London, I'm afraid.

DuncinToffee · 12/09/2025 20:53

comebetheoneineed · 12/09/2025 20:51

As is keeping men out of women's changing rooms apparently. I guess all that's left to say to the accusation of being far-right is "And?"
I've voted Labour for most of my life but...OK...this is the world we live in now

It is a recognised far right concept

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 12/09/2025 20:53

SeaAndStars · 12/09/2025 20:14

They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right wing meetings.

It's bad that records made 45 years ago still resonate with what happening now.
The Specials..why
With a Nazi salute and a steel cap boot .. lyrics is another one.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 12/09/2025 20:56

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