No-one is mentioning Trump's stroke

[CharlotteCChapel]

It's like tumbleweed out there. During the live televised 9/11 remembrance service Trump's face drooped on one side.

No-one in the mainstream media seems to be mentioning it.

Ive only seen it mentioned on IHIP and the Meidas Touch.

Eh? I’ve literally said those views don’t represent the views of the majority of the left. I abhor violence and the call to violence.

But if you can’t admit that hateful rhetoric from leaders like Trump, Musk etc is more damaging than some anonymous X accounts then you’re being disingenuous.

Also, pro trans doesn’t equal left wing. Why would I as a woman support the call to murder of the wonderful JKR by a white man dressed as a parody of a woman? It’s unthinkable. Name one well known person who has called for this?

We’re not just talking about media and politicians though, we’re saying that the ‘masses’ are displaying this behaviour, displaying glee and the thought that anyone they don’t agree with deserves to be killed.

Singing ‘We got him in the neck’

So who is ‘we’ in this context?

The left wing are aligning themselves with his shooter themselves. And they’re celebaring their win.

Do I think they know who did it? No, but they are claiming it.

As I said before, I thought it was just the usual crazies, but this has truly shown me how many, seemingly 'ordinary’ people feel this way.

And it’s scary.

Edited to add: People, especially youngsters, get their news from their peers and social media, not their leaders.

People are ignoring this growing glee, and I find it revoluting

Nobody is celebrating, they are querying if he is ill and it is being hidden. Just as we all did with Joe Biden.

...its also worth considering that given trumps agenda to get epstein off the news and encourage civil unrest to stop the midterms ( it all seems very timely doesn't it) that random X accounts and social media posts drumming up hateful anti democratic speech could well be the trump favouring bots doing their thing for their leader.

On literal page one, there is someone saying their ‘hopes are up’

There have been rumours circulating about his stroke for a few weeks now.

https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/trump-seems-bald-from-medical-treatment-unrecognisable-new-images-of-us-president-raise-questions/3963937/#google_vignette

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/trump-suffered-a-stroke-wild-health-rumors-body-double-theories-and-new-concerns-swirl-after-trumpisdead-trends/articleshow/123672018.cms

Hate is a strong term and you've just pretty much proven my point.

Is it really? Because I am well aware that certain elements of the community (a growing number of them in these Reformy times) would think it was hilarious if a 'lefty woke snowflake' like me was killed for whatever reason. I've already been accused of being non-patriotic and committing treason (for standing as a Labour councillor) so escalation into violence doesn't seem that much of a reach.

This is coming from the right. These people have been emboldened/radicalised by Trump and Farage into seeing left-leaning people as literal enemies. It's got worse since Jo Cox and probably only a matter of time before we see a repetition of that. Most left-leaning people are anti violence so the threats don't work the other way.

And FWIW it was clearly a professional hit on Charlie Kirk - shot from a single bullet from 200 metres away - and I doubt very much that this was paid for by some mysterious shady left-wing millionaire. More likely malicious agent who wants to further destabilise US democracy.

It wouldn’t surprise me. Trump only cares about people who look like him and act like him.

Anyone else is seen as collateral damage.

My point was, I initially thought it was ‘some anonymous X accounts’

But it isn’t, it’s far more widespread than I realised, scarily so.

It’s not just pro trans, it’s all across the board.

I’m sorry you think I’m being being disingenuous by saying how shocked I was at seeing how widespread it is. But I don’t care.

I think you’re being disingenuous by pretending it’s just a few u hinged anonymous accounts with these views

Would you like to answer the question?
I've not proven any point though, HTH.

@LemondrizzleSharklook back to the start of the thread.

That’s also beyond my comprehension.

I just can’t understand people who take joy in the death of someone, over political views.

It’s deranged, and so much more widespread than I had realised.

Edited to add: I’m not actually talking about the sniper or his client, but the gleeful reaction to it.

It’s the opinion that there’s nothing hating or violent from the left masses that’s my issue, I know it comes from the right.

Some people seem to think it’s only the right though, and they’re very wrong

Obviously don’t watch the whole thing. Look at Trump at the beginning of this then around ten minutes in. There is a noticeable droop.

Well that's a reach.

I noticed this and thought he looked and sounded very tired

he is nearly 80 and I guess a more stressful 24 hours plus the added security issues

I think I would rather see him see out his presidency than have Vance in charge

Oh please....just because someone says ' we' doesn't give them the mandate of speaking for every left leaning person south of the Artic circle. Who are 'we' who are 'they'? If I watched all maga leaning social media I would conclude that every American was off their rocker so whatever you're watching you need to be more choice about what you're watching and/or be more discerning of what is being said and who is saying it.

To add i watch alot of independent left leaning social media, news , and influencers , not one has rejoiced in this shooting. None.

He spoke in complete sentences and looked like he was reading the autocue. Then his hands did a weird flick. It looked like AI to me. I barely trust anything I see anymore.

It's less taking joy in death and more taking joy in potentially not having to listen to his awful opinions.
In an ideal world he'd have had an epiphany moment as opposed to being executed, of course. Unfortunately a lot of people are labelling him a martyr now, that he definitely is not.

You didn’t have to listen. You don’t need this outcome to stop you listening to anyone’s opinions you disagree with.

You clearly haven’t been on blue sky. It was revolting

Absolutely.

That's not sobering it's shocking and alarming that you feel so threatened by people you dont know, who dont know you.

It is not a normal reaction.

must just been his expression ..just seen him live on fox news saying charlie kirks shooters in custody and he looks perfectly fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

This. Sadly I have just seen him on the box and he looks as healthy as ever.

I suspect he slurs when his blood pressure or blood sugar goes low.

Patience is a virtue.