Page 29 | No-one is mentioning Trump's stroke

CharlotteCChapel · 2025-09-12T08:12:43+00:00

It's like tumbleweed out there. During the live televised 9/11 remembrance service Trump's face drooped on one side. No-one in the mainstream media seems to be mentioning it. Ive only seen it mentioned on IHIP and the Meidas Touch.

Gingernaut · 14/09/2025 20:20

Before he was reported as dead, Leonid Brezhnev was rumoured to be a very sick man, almost being wheeled around for photo-ops and Communist apparatchiks making policies

I have an itching feeling that something similar is happening to Trump

Someone is pulling the strings, Weekend at Bernie's-style

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 14/09/2025 20:48

2021x · 14/09/2025 01:10

I am sure his parents are reasonable people, but his politics are much less likely to do with his capacity to commit a very public murder than his upbringing and possible mental illness.

Lots of people loathe public personas, only very few plan, and actually carry out the plan to kill them.

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I'm saying his parents said he was absolutely a Republican. They said their son was a Trump supporter, and Nick Fuentes follower. Whom if you were unaware, is a white nationalist.

PhuckTrump · 14/09/2025 20:49

PaniKotta · 14/09/2025 16:50

@Namitynamename
"But if it's hateful to say a person who supports refugees deserves to get killed by refugees then it's equally hateful to say someone like Charlie's Kirk who advocates for the 2nd amendment deserves to get shot."
No one has said that anyone "deserves to be killed by refugees " or that "the occasional killing of citizens by refugees is a price they are prepared to pay for accepting refugees in their communities".
Charlie Kirk, however, is on record as saying that a certain number of deaths by gun violence every year is the price to pay for the 2nd amendment. He agreed with the principle of random shooting deaths by crazies with guns. He has fallen victim to his misguided beliefs.
Personally, I think all those who vote in favour of the 2nd amendment should be made to sign a waiver saying they are OK with themselves and their loved ones being the victims of shooting incidents. It might just bring it home to them what they are supporting.

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They think they’re going to be drawn into the firefight like Rambo and save the day with their own concealed gun.

PhuckTrump · 14/09/2025 20:57

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/09/2025 20:12

Not really surprising, since they are the two most "notable".

Columbine was an early one, 1999, when people still got shocked about these things and which seems to have inspired copycat killings; it also had thirteen students and one teacher as victims, still a high number for a single event. And there was a film made about it by Michael Moore.

Sandy Hook was in 2012, with twenty-eight deaths including the shooter's mother whom he killed with her own gun before starting his main spree, and the shooter himself. It was particularly horrible because the children involved were aged six and seven. And also because Alex Jones, the sweetie, decided it was all lies and there had been no deaths, which meant it stayed in the mind and the parents were persecuted.

Parkland in 2018 was seventeen deaths, Santa Fe the same year was ten, but mostly the fatalities on these occasions are in single figures, which makes them less immediately memorable as individual incidents – unless you are the parents of the victim(s).

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The other one that sticks in my mind is the Uvalde, TX primary school in 2022, where 19 students and 2 teachers were killed by a former student. The most memorable bit for me was that the police were outside for over an hour before they plucked up the courage to go in, whilst the killer continued to murder people.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 14/09/2025 21:02

PhuckTrump · 14/09/2025 20:57

The other one that sticks in my mind is the Uvalde, TX primary school in 2022, where 19 students and 2 teachers were killed by a former student. The most memorable bit for me was that the police were outside for over an hour before they plucked up the courage to go in, whilst the killer continued to murder people.

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That's so shocking but I have no memory of it.

This country is a long way off perfect but if you mention a school shooting here then people know exactly where you are talking about. Say about a school shooting in America and you have to specify exactly which one you mean. How anyone can think that's alright is beyond me.

PhuckTrump · 14/09/2025 21:09

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 14/09/2025 21:02

That's so shocking but I have no memory of it.

This country is a long way off perfect but if you mention a school shooting here then people know exactly where you are talking about. Say about a school shooting in America and you have to specify exactly which one you mean. How anyone can think that's alright is beyond me.

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You might remember that one because it was in Matthew McConaughey‘s hometown and he did lots of press about it. People were really impressed and kept saying that he should run for office.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 14/09/2025 21:15

So I guess we now know the OPs post was a complete fabrication and spread false news. There is zero indication Trump suffered a stroke.

Namitynamename · 14/09/2025 21:16

EasternStandard · 14/09/2025 09:15

Who is this aimed at?

I don’t think anyone can show young adults always follow their parent’s beliefs. We have violent crimes here that show that.

I know people are relying on the information about the parents to further their argument, they’re leaning on it where they wouldn’t for other crimes.

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I think everyone will be able to interpret what happened to fit their own beliefs. If the shooter had been a Muslim instead of a Mormon then that absolutely would have been made much of by certain people on the right. Likewise if he had come from a single parent home there would have been much discussion of the role family breakdown/lack of a father figure has on young men's propensity for violence.
As it was he came from an apparently decent hardworking family, whose parents were married and were part of a supportive community and God fearing. They did everything "right". So those aspects aren't being considered as important. However, he might have been idiosyncratically left wing. He certainly had some weird beliefs. So that's what people are talking about.

On the other hand you will likely find some (quite unpleasant) lefty types who will try to make something of the fact his family were religious/generally conformist. It's not at all fair on his family. Likely none of this is their fault or the fault of the Mormon faith. It also isn't usually the fault of Muslim or immigrant parents when their sons do things like this.

Personally I think he just sounds terminally online and overly absorbed in meme culture to the extent it rotted his brain. But that might be my own bias showing.

justasking111 · 14/09/2025 21:39

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 14/09/2025 21:15

So I guess we now know the OPs post was a complete fabrication and spread false news. There is zero indication Trump suffered a stroke.

Yep. Fabrication

Putin's been on his deathbed for years according to the media. He looks fine to me.

Zonder · 14/09/2025 22:46

justasking111 · 14/09/2025 21:39

Yep. Fabrication

Putin's been on his deathbed for years according to the media. He looks fine to me.

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As fine as anyone in their 70s with that much filler in their face can look!

TopPocketFind · 14/09/2025 23:04

There is also the bruise on his right hand

justasking111 · 14/09/2025 23:11

TopPocketFind · 14/09/2025 23:04

There is also the bruise on his right hand

I wake up with bruises on my hand if I forget to take my watch off. I'm wondering if he doesn't have vitamins put in by cannula. It's very popular over there.

TopPocketFind · 14/09/2025 23:15

He could explain that rather than trying to cover it up and pretend is was a result of handshaking and nothing to do with his chronic venous insufficiency diagnosis.

But then we know he lies about his height too.

FullLondonEye · 15/09/2025 00:26

Namitynamename · 14/09/2025 21:16

I think everyone will be able to interpret what happened to fit their own beliefs. If the shooter had been a Muslim instead of a Mormon then that absolutely would have been made much of by certain people on the right. Likewise if he had come from a single parent home there would have been much discussion of the role family breakdown/lack of a father figure has on young men's propensity for violence.
As it was he came from an apparently decent hardworking family, whose parents were married and were part of a supportive community and God fearing. They did everything "right". So those aspects aren't being considered as important. However, he might have been idiosyncratically left wing. He certainly had some weird beliefs. So that's what people are talking about.

On the other hand you will likely find some (quite unpleasant) lefty types who will try to make something of the fact his family were religious/generally conformist. It's not at all fair on his family. Likely none of this is their fault or the fault of the Mormon faith. It also isn't usually the fault of Muslim or immigrant parents when their sons do things like this.

Personally I think he just sounds terminally online and overly absorbed in meme culture to the extent it rotted his brain. But that might be my own bias showing.

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It's not at all fair on his family. Likely none of this is their fault

Really? Well if he hadn't been brought up owning and learning to shoot guns he most likely wouldn't have been able to shoot someone... I couldn't. Because in my family we didn't have guns.

Namitynamename · 15/09/2025 01:13

FullLondonEye · 15/09/2025 00:26

It's not at all fair on his family. Likely none of this is their fault

Really? Well if he hadn't been brought up owning and learning to shoot guns he most likely wouldn't have been able to shoot someone... I couldn't. Because in my family we didn't have guns.

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I'm glad we have stronger rules around guns in the UK than America. But guns are a part of American culture especially places like Utah, so I don't think it's fair to judge his family for bringing him up with guns. He wasn't a toddler who got hold of a gun someone had left lying around. He was a grown adult responsible for his own decisions. With the laws/culture in Utah it would have been possible for him as an adult to get hold of a weapon and learn to shoot it even if his own family were anti-gun. I suggest to you that if you were motivated to cause harm you would have learnt to shoot, regardless of your upbringing.

Apparently it was his own father who turned him in (along with their minister) after he told him what he had done. That just sounds so difficult and awful.

justasking111 · 15/09/2025 01:20

FullLondonEye · 15/09/2025 00:26

It's not at all fair on his family. Likely none of this is their fault

Really? Well if he hadn't been brought up owning and learning to shoot guns he most likely wouldn't have been able to shoot someone... I couldn't. Because in my family we didn't have guns.

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Round here loads of people have guns. Shooting by the age of 10. Same all over the UK. We've had the odd suicide which is god awful, and some by hanging, again traumatic for loved ones.

However, we don't have machine gun type weapons, more shotguns.

hand guns my son heard a few fired on a big estate at the back of his halls when at university. I heard a couple of shots when staying in Lambeth, my hostess wasn't worried though.

It's all a bit batshit in the states, it's so easy to get guns, and so many in a household. Security is sloppy, you don't get thorough police checks and GP letters every five years. Your spouse isn't questioned separately as to whether you think he's sound of mind and fit to have a licence. And to contact them if you think he's losing his marbles.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 02:06

It's completely hateful. But if it's hateful to say a person who supports refugees deserves to get killed by refugees then it's equally hateful to say someone like Charlie's Kirk who advocates for the 2nd amendment deserves to get shot. It's still a tragedy, maybe it's ironic but that doesn't make it deserved.

I don't think anyone has suggested he deserved to get shot/ die, but by his own reasoning this is an acceptable consequence of gun rights /second amendment . My issue is that it is the very people who are pro gun second amendment etc who are having the most visceral reaction to his demise, yet barely a word about the 3 children who were shot on the same day, nor the multitude of children murdered yearl. Gun violence doesn't start or stop at colleges or schools it is also a major factor in domestic violence. The UK has stricter gun control than the US where it seems that gun controls barely exist.
There are plenty of studies to suggest that a child sitting on a computer for long periods causes a multitude of mental health issues, why does it not occur to people that submerging them in gun culture wouldn't have the same effect, the stats speak for themselves.

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 03:47

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 14/09/2025 20:48

I'm saying his parents said he was absolutely a Republican. They said their son was a Trump supporter, and Nick Fuentes follower. Whom if you were unaware, is a white nationalist.

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That people are still pushing this line is completely ridiculous. The reporting has given us a fairly clear picture of who Robinson was: basically a member of a radicalized group of trans-ID males and activists. We have been saying that TRAs are dangerous for a very long time, I wish that the authorities could have taken them and their groups more seriously

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 04:31

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 03:47

That people are still pushing this line is completely ridiculous. The reporting has given us a fairly clear picture of who Robinson was: basically a member of a radicalized group of trans-ID males and activists. We have been saying that TRAs are dangerous for a very long time, I wish that the authorities could have taken them and their groups more seriously

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Hardly ridiculous. He was brought up maga, pro gun, has had links with Nick fuentes, so much so Fuentes has posted that this is not who they are! His grandmother said they didnt know any democrats. The fact you're totally ignoring all TRs formative years, life, upbringing, influences, indoctrination, tells me you're as desperate as trump to apportion blame to the Democrats, the left, Biden, Obama, the blue light that comes on in your washing machine rather than accept that maybe just maybe the responsibility lies with the Republican lifestyle or message.
Trump wants epstein to go away, this is his desperate attempts to deflect, exploiting his ' great friends' death to create division and create a civil war to avoid the midterms.

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 05:57

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 04:31

Hardly ridiculous. He was brought up maga, pro gun, has had links with Nick fuentes, so much so Fuentes has posted that this is not who they are! His grandmother said they didnt know any democrats. The fact you're totally ignoring all TRs formative years, life, upbringing, influences, indoctrination, tells me you're as desperate as trump to apportion blame to the Democrats, the left, Biden, Obama, the blue light that comes on in your washing machine rather than accept that maybe just maybe the responsibility lies with the Republican lifestyle or message.
Trump wants epstein to go away, this is his desperate attempts to deflect, exploiting his ' great friends' death to create division and create a civil war to avoid the midterms.

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what so they call this? It’s not grasping at straws anymore. Straws are real. It’s like they are grasping at vapor. Pathetic tbh

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 06:53

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 05:57

what so they call this? It’s not grasping at straws anymore. Straws are real. It’s like they are grasping at vapor. Pathetic tbh

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Ignore the maga gun upbringing all you like but they are undeniable facts. The vapor you're talking about is your own.

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 06:58

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 06:53

Ignore the maga gun upbringing all you like but they are undeniable facts. The vapor you're talking about is your own.

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Just give up. Even the NYT is reporting it now.

www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 15/09/2025 07:24

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 04:31

Hardly ridiculous. He was brought up maga, pro gun, has had links with Nick fuentes, so much so Fuentes has posted that this is not who they are! His grandmother said they didnt know any democrats. The fact you're totally ignoring all TRs formative years, life, upbringing, influences, indoctrination, tells me you're as desperate as trump to apportion blame to the Democrats, the left, Biden, Obama, the blue light that comes on in your washing machine rather than accept that maybe just maybe the responsibility lies with the Republican lifestyle or message.
Trump wants epstein to go away, this is his desperate attempts to deflect, exploiting his ' great friends' death to create division and create a civil war to avoid the midterms.

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Yes, because no child rebelled against their parents politics ever!!!!!🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

The personal life and politics of the shooter have now been reported. Just give it up and accept this assassin was a Left wing TRA.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 07:28

Are you implying his extreme views couldn't possibly have come as a result of his maga heavy, gun soaked, cultlike upbringing...really?

Given how trump pressurises congress men and women I would imagine the utah governor is no different being told how to frame the narrative and trump is really desperate! Release the epstein files.

By the way republicans can be trans and gay too, why else does the Grindr app crash with every RNC. The hypocrisy is entrenched.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 15/09/2025 07:30

RingoJuice · 15/09/2025 03:47

That people are still pushing this line is completely ridiculous. The reporting has given us a fairly clear picture of who Robinson was: basically a member of a radicalized group of trans-ID males and activists. We have been saying that TRAs are dangerous for a very long time, I wish that the authorities could have taken them and their groups more seriously

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HAHAHAHAHA! That's all been disproven. Every newspaper has retracted those 'reports'. They came from people didn't actual speak to the guy, and the roommate (who was his roommate for a single semester), was called 'trans' and a 'furry', because there was a picture of the guy in a damn onsie, and he had used one of those dumb filters to make himself look like he was an Anime girl. Which apparently is a popular thing for guys to do on 4chan to make fun of women.