Why are governments putting women and girls at higher risk of sex crimes?

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Fact: Hundreds of thousands of men are entering Europe (as in the continent), from countries where women and girls are second class citizens.
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Fact: The sex crime rate statistics associated with different nationalities living in the UK have been published. An example is provided below.
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….the [sex crime] rates, based on convictions per 10,000 of the population put Afghans, with 77 convictions, at the top with a rate of 59 per 10,000 – 22.3 times that of Britons.
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They were followed by Eritreans, who accounted for 59 convictions at a rate of 53.6 per 10,000 of their population.
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Britons accounted for 12,619 sex offence convictions, representing a rate of 2.66 per per 10,000 of their population in England and Wales.
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https://archive.md/6AXAy Archive version
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Fact: This example data blows up any erroneous claims from people suggesting that British men commit more sex crimes when numbers in the population are accounted for / are more likely to commit a sex crime.
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There’s above is factual data. It is not racist to provide it. To claim this, is quite simply, wrong. Perhaps it’s projection, the mind boggles.

To want ‘no debate’ and bleet on with incorrectly placed accusations of racism, is to shut down people’s valid concerns.

Tin hat on for the people who want no debate on this issue, and instead of protecting women and girls, insist on protecting men from countries where women and girls are treated as second class citizens.

More data has been promised.
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Well this is the problem isn't it. The government doesn't want to tackle the actual root causes leading to immigration and tbh a large portion of Joe Public probably wouldn't want that either because it would mean a day to day impact on things like the type of fuel we use, the cost of things and actively trying to cut down on waste/ plastics etc and that will be hard in a capitalist and consumerist driven society. Its just so much easier to be annoyed at the people who are struggling/blame them for seeking help than to actually enact change collectively.

To me it's the nimby principle- everyone wants something done about immigration they just don't want to have to be the ones to do it/foot the bill for it. So in the meantime we have actual human beings in desperate need of help. Instead of overhauling our home office system we have wasted stupid money on schemes that are an abuse of human rights that have flopped anyway.

First port of call is a more efficient home office system and enabling people to work quickly after arrival. Using that to fill roles that are harder to fill and boost the economy to create money that could be used for longer term solutions tackling problems at the root.

Are you talking about immigration or asylum? The former add to the country in significant ways without having been born and educated in the uk. A large number of immigrants are transient as they are foreign students - again paying into universities, as they are charged much higher fees. 266,000 students made up the 948,000 immigration figures. The latter is 1% of immigration.

Indeed - dispiriting but same old attacks from people holding luxury beliefs.

They want the UK totally isolated. Farage is stuck playing forts. Instead of combating climate change and poverty so that people stay where they are, they want to stop all foreign aid, all climate change investment and any international cooperation.

They want to pull us out of international human rights law, the ECHR, strip non Brits of human rights and create an isolated backwater, ears ringing with fracking and aeroplanes deporting foreigners. We can all see where it's going.

Yes, thank you. The behaviour of some people on this thread helps explain why the real issues aren’t addressed. Terrifying, really.

The argument that plenty of British men are rapists and domestic abusers therefore it doesn't really matter what happens to women if we let in hundreds of thousands of young men from misogynistic, violent, unstable countries with their own culturally specific misogynistic practices is a bit like saying 'Well, people are always going to murder each other so we might as well legalise guns.' There's a kind of shrugging, nihilistic apathy to it. Who cares if progress is going backwards for women? Who cares if things are getting worse for us? Let's just make life harder and harder.

Which beliefs are those that you class as luxury?

That's not quite what happened though, is it? Did you read the whole thread?

Yes. 💯

But we aren't letting in hundreds of thousands of men like you describe are we?

Yes. Who cares if more girls will be (are being) raped. Collateral damage.

We have been over this one.

Please stop spreading disinformation.

It’s exactly what’s happened. And you’ve been a main protagonist.

The people holed up in a hotel, with a baying mob outside being held back by the police, are probably terrified as well.

No, people are calling OP out on presenting deliberately distorted data. A debate is fine. A debate based on a deliberate false premise, which has been questioned by reputable analysts, is not. If you can't argue honestly, how are we supposed to believe a word you say? If you want an honest debate about asylum and immigration, you will need to be honest with the information you present - its source, how it has been analysed including methodology, secondary data sources (i.e. the demographics, which are part of the problem here). A lot of people don't understand information and how it works. On this thread there are quite a few people who actually do - and quite a few people with actual experience of working with refugees and with the victims of VAWAG. If you want to debate with experts, don't come unarmed.

Please stop denying it.

The Taliban is ready to work with Farage on migrants

That screams 'protect women and girls'

‘If you want to debate with experts’

😂😂😂

Of course.

Exactly. All we're getting is endless repetition from OP stating she is right. No engaging with any of the information offered. Sadly, there will be people who swallow her nonsense whole. It's so much easier than looking at the complexities involved.

So did you fail to understand it or are you just making stuff up?

23,241 adult female asylum seekers arrived in uk in the first 6 months of the year along with 7,756 female children

111,000 people claimed asylum in the same year

yes there are more men than woman and children, but there are 30,000 females so well over 25%

You didn't say you were heavily involved in VAWAG?

😂 wow. You’re serious. You believe what you’re saying. I’m not surprised. I’ve answered questions many times. Conveniently ignored / distorted . There’s only so many times one can say something. I realise it’s like flogging a dead horse. People like you will never listen. Owen Jones is probably your hero..