Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

Its mainly middle class white women, not just here but across the West.

But who do we think pays for the health care etc? Working people paying taxes obviously and the demographic black hole has been known about for years. We need some immigration and meanwhile they are busy reducing visas, student visas and others in an attempt to make the numbers look better. Brexit has made the situation worse. We are fucked if we can’t have younger people living and working here and keeping the economy going.

I live in an extremely diverse urban area before anyone thinks everyone who thinks immigration is needed doesn’t know what it actually looks like on a day to day basis.

Economic migrants? Are we talking about people who come from Australia etc to work? I thought people loved them because they’re white.

There are no flags or protests so far in my area, but we do have an issue as we have a hotel up the road. We are lucky to be a generally low crime area, but for the first time since i’ve lived here, we had to have police presence on my street as men from the hotel were harrassing primary school girls and their mums at school pick up time, including stalking/following. Our MP tried to hush it up. So rather than racism, it is a genuine fear of our safety (as females) that we have a hotel of men near us from incredibly different cultures which hold a complete disregard for women and girls.

I think the flag issue in particular has really shown a disconnect between the highly educated, left leaning people (who produce most of our media, run the govt etc) and the bulk of everyday people around the rest of the country.

It’s an odd situation where lefties will proudly wave a Palestinian flag on marches, but then sneer at anyone wanting to display a St George’s flag. Is it really surprising people are feeling the govt doesn’t understand them or care about their concerns?

It isn’t fake, it was on newsbeat, i’ll see if I can find it. The poster I quoted only wants the NHS to be available for people born in the UK, so you would assume they also wouldn’t suppory those born outside of the UK working in it, otherwise the poster is a hypocrit.

So what's your answer when people who've lived in this country all their lives have to wait forever to get a council house, yet people who have just arrived here can jump the queue with EVERYTHING, especially with regards to being housed.

I think for some people it is racist behaviour because they are. For others they don’t like change as areas they live in have changed into multicultural areas. My partner is black I am white and I was shocked when we met at behaviour towards him. He expects it.
However the uk is an island surrounded by water and the government seem to have no way of controlling the amount of people coming into the country. I worked for the nhs and in the early 2000’s many Europeans came here to have babies. As it was free and they would then be housed here. I don’t think it’s a new problem. The problem is there isn’t enough housing for the people already here. The nhs is struggling as are schools.

A right wing group has orchestrated these flags flying.

Which right wing group?

Isn’t it sad that we can’t show patriotism for our country without being deemed racist?

WTF? How ridiculous, maybe where you live. I like this country, I understand that it currently gets you more virtual brownie points to say you hate it though.

Yes I agree that would be sad but these people aren’t patriots. They’re racist half wits.

That’s really rude, and I might have to report your post for being personally attacking.

However, I have examples of non British nationals getting council houses above British. It’s usually in the case where there are children….

‘Raise the Flag’ which has support from far right groups.

Where mum lives people have spray painted red crosses on information signs at parks, on peoples houses and in some cases cars. How is that patriotic?

I agree. I think there used to be an element of shame about it, like people thought it but wouldn’t dare say it out loud. Now they’ve been emboldened by what they see on social media and they all join in.

Do you have the data for the number of asylum seekers who are given a property when they arrive in the UK?

That’s not the same as having a flag up though is it — that sounds like something else…

yes i believe it’s been hijacked by reform and being turned into a intimidation campaign. Because a lot of racial attacks are happening and also people of colour being targeted who are normal British citizens not asylum seekers. All the racists coming out the woodwork. It’s disgusting and things will start backfiring very soon. Also these people in my opinion wouldn’t go to war for their own country but they will get drunk and protest lol

hmmmm - I’ve lived in 2 Muslim countries and I wouldn’t want to live in them long term

The guy doing it on her street has three flags up, an upside down union flag, a st georges flag and a st georges flag that has got the crest of his football team added (saints). He caused the criminal damage on the fence and cars, the park is on the same street, but she doesn’t know if he also did the signs there.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic however let’s be real, it’s turning into a white vs colour campaign