Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

Where on Gods earth did you get the figure 50,000 from? You are grossly underestimating the real numbers..

Lets stick with the actual facts:

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

These numbers it is important to say do not include those that are here illegally. These are the official stats only.

It hasn't happened quickly, it's been simmering for years. But with the advent of the Labour govt, and the cost of living soaring, people are getting more stressed and that is spilling over into visible anger.

But we are NOT a hateful drunk nation. That's ridiculous.

My village, my closest town are enjoying their bank holidays. Fishing, barbecuing, doing sport, seeing friends. There are a couple of crosses of St George hanging from a foot bridge but that's all. No-one drunk and hateful here.

Well, maybe a few drunks but they are mostly happy drunks.😊

Yep, experienced racism twice last week - the first I've had in over 15 years. Really shocked how people are more overtly racist now.

Not sure it is new though - 9/11 increased racism, as did Brexit, and the riots last year. It just keeps coming back.

Amen,

we can’t support our own but we accept thousands in boats, trains, Lorrie’s etc . They do not belong here. Save our money for own people and send them back. Our future is fucked otherwise.

I do not see it personally, but let’s assume you are right in your observation, what do you believe the catalyst is?

You could have made your point without rudeness. Calling those who do not agree with you hard of thinking is part of the problem.

No idea if your percentages are correct however with welfare bills associated with refugees in the UK are listed as anywhere between £4.8 and £2.3 billion that's a hell of a lot of money per capita being spent on 50,000 people - somewhere between 80k and 45k. How much does an unemployed person cost, apparently that is between 25k to over 15k annually.

So logically something is amiss here either refugees are living in luxury or the figures are wrong, but surely the cost of one person who has arrived here yesterday shouldn't cost more than someone who is confirmed as entitled to be here?

What form did it take?

Flags have gone up in my street. It's ridiculous as it isn't a very multicultural area so it's not like people have actually been impacted by immigration. People have been whipped in to a frenzy by the media and social media.

I see it as the outlet of frustration. Labour have been a disappointment. And they aren’t listening. And it’s 4 years before anyone can vote. And by that time what will the col living crisis be. I’m not saying it’s right… but I see why people need an outlet

There’s been hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year since T Blair in 2003 - no proper controls -it’s too bad we didn’t get angry sooner as unlike other govs ours have done absolutely nothing.

‘Support for the little girl’ < snort>

These patriots are obsessed with ‘looking after’ women and children. Half of them are probably wife beaters. I don’t need some twat looking after me.

It’s just an excuse to be racist and horrible. This country is awful at the moment. Personally I’d swap all the idiot men for some refugees.

Why do you feel the need to support someone who is intoxicated in public while spraying graffiti on roads, while discussing the dangers of muslimia rayguns?

It isn’t immigration or asylum seekers that have made a mess of the UK, its the normalisation of being a bit shit “oh I can’t do maths me”, the huge number of people with zero aspirations for themselves or their children, the parents who don’t value education and think school staff are bullying them because their child has awful behaviour, the parents who think its appropriate to buy their kids dirt bikes and e-scooters to terrorise other residents, families sitting in their fromt gardens full of househols rubbish and furniture until the early hours swearing and getting drunk, the parents sending their non-send child to school in nappies.

When you decide to become a country where its normal to just bumble along with no effort, its hardly a surprise that its a failure longterm.

It's not just about the 50,000 in hotels. It's about the 1m+ that move here every year. If you don't get that then you don't understand.

Its one of (not the only of course) reasons we decided to leave the UK.

In my area it isn’t just flags. I drove through a local village last nights and saw banner cable tied to roadside railings alongside the flags with commentary about stopping boats and protecting our kids.

So round here it’s definitely being driven not by a pride in Britain, but in fear and frustration.

I support multicultural Britain and think immigration is a good thing, and really I don’t think the majority talking like this actually are racist. I think they are frightened. Jobs are hard to get, CoL is high and money doesn’t go as far, services are falling apart, and Labour are tinkering at the edges.

The movement is something tangible to latch on to. It’s a way to actually DO something when so much of what is actually part of the problem is out of your control.

The trouble being of course that it does rather allow the actual bigots and racists that exist to get themselves involved in something mainstream and out of cover. It’s complex. And it does make me uncomfortable to see flags alongside that messaging, instead of alongside a positive message about Britain.

I don’t think it’s racist either. Our infrastructure and public services can’t support the people we have here already and yet there are people arriving here daily on boats that are a further drain.

Also, I have family who work as criminal lawyers and they are constantly at the police station representing these men that everyone seems to feel so sorry for. They are dressed in designer clothes, having been given housing and even their own credit cards by our government. It’s utterly unacceptable and I don’t see how it’s racist to think that.

I think what’s actually scary and frightening is how such a massive collective seem to think this view is wrong. Even this thread, makes me feel depressed. So many do gooders - how would you feel if it was your daughter that was assaulted or your belongings stolen?!

@Upupandaway10- it’s well known that Tommy Robinson is behind this so not ridiculous at all

You can’t get an NHS dentist around here, A&E is regularly a 12 hour wait, the NHS is falling apart, there are a ridiculously high number of applications for every job advertised so people are struggling to get work, class sizes in schools are busting at the seams and education is suffering… yet some bright spark thinks it’s a good idea to add thousands more people to this.

It’s not about race or colour. It’s about numbers.
Being genuinely concerned about the impact to your own life and family for the reasons listed above is NOT racism. I’d feel exactly the same about white people coming over illegally.

We are a country that’s sinking as it is, adding more people to this when we are in such a mess is only causing us to sink faster.

Speak for yourself!

As you’re so scared of people who aren’t born in the UK I assume you refuse all treatment from them when using the NHS, be it a nurse, doctor, lab assistant, radiologist, physio etc? Or are people who weren’t born in the UK suddenly useful for you and your family when you become ill? I assume you would also scrap the NHS surcharge and reduce the tax burden on people who weren’t born in the UK due to them not being able to access public services?

There was one hotel on the news that was almost bankrupt and had a 3.7% occupancy rate before it housed asylum seekers. Why aren’t all of your British born people supporting these hotels well enough so that they said no to the offer from the government?

i completely agree, I've gone through life as a compassionate and tolanrent person but also with a level and common sense head.
I'm not led by media but what I can clearly see is happening - we cannot cope with the demand placed on our infrastructure. It's going to break.

Can I ask the ones who are saying we're wrong and racist to voice these concerns - will there ever be a point where you say no to taking more people in? Would things have to get so bad that we are living like sardines for you to then say no more? Or would you still be happy to welcome more?

I'd rather they weren't here full stop.

A 3.7% occupancy rate on a hotel? It would be bankrupt with an occupancy rate less than 40-50%! Sounds fake to me.

Why do you assume people are unhappy with foreign doctors and nurses? Are you deliberately obtuse? Do you not think it is possible to have an immigration system that allows medical professionals in as a priority whilst keeping overall numbers low?

I don't understand why these economic migrants are not instantly turned around and deported?
That should have been the policy from the get go.

asylum seekers have to be ‘workless’ as you put it as the govt does not allow them to legally work until they receive refugee status.

People absolutely care about Windrush but what has that got to do with asylum seekers?! You can feel empathy for more than one group at once.

this post is batshit.