Labour isn't working - Thread 6

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5382194-labour-isnt-working-thread-5?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

In other news some Labour supporters are denying gilt and "black hole" figures 🙄 They bang on about Truss but deny what Labour have done/are doing. The mental gymnastics must be exhausting

How weird! Of it’s because of no trains on Sunday, surely would have been less disruptive just to change the Sun to the Mon, leaving Sat as is????

Ok now makes sense -how cynical and shameless /what a piece of work she is.

Gosh /thanks to the PP who mentioned this upthread (sorry about your Coldplay debacle)
I live in London and hasn’t realised this /utterly scandalous that they can hold the city to ransom like this! How can they cut off key transport for 5 days!
Back to the 70s 😔😔

Tube and DLR strikes - September 2025
Strikes are planned on the Tube and DLR.

• From Sunday 7 to Thursday 11 September 2025, Tube services will be severely disrupted, with little to no service expected
• Any services that do run between Monday 8 and Friday 12 September will start later than usual with no service before 08:00
• On Tuesday 8 and Thursday 11 September 2025, there will also be no service on the DLR

Not sure why the DLR needs to close. I thought it was all automated.

@MyNameIsX Labour supporters are on very dodgy ground when they criticise Reform's calibre of MPs/Councillors

But Peter Kyle has been MP there since 2015. Is he expected to just budge over?

Guaranteed they know something we don’t!

There is a lot of goodwill towards lab in that area, Brighton etc, however they are not as supportive to Labour as they once were. Particularly AR being a visible hypocrite of the highest order.

The control staff are striking too. Unusable then.

The next conservative government needs to quash the rail unions. They’ve got the best pay and conditions of most people, particularly when the vast majority of them have very basic qualifications, if any.

The tube is basically automated too. The only reason they haven’t yet got driverless trains, is union power.

Ridiculous that tube trains still have drivers.

@LupaMoonhowl toyal bullshit
@twistyizzy jeez that’s insane

Where’s that info from??

Isn't it! Shocking.
Now I am in no way saying here that there aren't questionnable Tory and Reform MPs/Councillors. Not at all. What I'm illustrating is that Labour supporters are in no position to take any moral high ground about the members of their party.

It’s a real arse for us. My son starts senior school this week and will be reliant on the Tube.

As if nobody cd see this happening give more to people they want more

Right, brace yourself, turns out I have a full chip on my shoulder...

Fucking Bridgette Phillipson with her, 'white working class parents need to get their children into school and taking education seriously'...working class parents bloody do, even when their children are white, and boys. And they perform bloody marvellously.

Those who don't do well are children whose parents are workless, and especially those who are lumbered with generational worklessness and plagued by apathy and hopelessness.

I live in a largely white working class area but one which is mostly privately owned housing. So, there's very little worklessness.

Guess what... the local schools are flying, there's very little absenteeism, SAT, GCSE and A-level grades are high. Even, shock, among the boys - who have not been failed by Gove's curriculum.

Carrying on like there is something broken and toxic among the white working class - as though our parenting is lax - so we can play a Trojan Horse for a non-working class - those who were left behind by a system that didn't give two shits about them is outrageous.

Yes I was just skimming the times article with the font of all educational knowledge Bridget opining that the behaviour crisis in schools could be solved if parents got onside.

Should’ve been accompanied by photos of her as the fairy godmother waving a wand…

I guess she thinks this is the sort of ‘it’s all parenting’ bilge that’ll appeal to times readers and, as usual, it’s not an actual plan…

She is on the side of teachers’ unions. Not children. Not families.

If her mindset seems inconsistent and irrational just ask yourself- does this increase union numbers? Does this strengthen union power? Does this lessen teacher accountability? Etc.

Although according to this - what teaching unions actually want is more specialist provisions. And they are going to whistle for that under labour’s Non plans:

Bridget Phillipson: Pupils lose 45 days a year to behaviour crisis

www.thetimes.com/article/36932a4b-64fe-46f4-a79b-0d161984d38f?shareToken=954b38fe3fca21b203583cf629ca4430

I think you all know my views on Bigot Phillpson!
The woman is obsessed with class, she should be SoS for class. Zero clue or ideas about education! She can turn everything into a bloody class war. The chip on her shoulder is a frigging boulder.

Yes, absolutely, there needs to be better provision for children who cannot adapt to the mainstream school system. And if they can't manage that then, the least they can do is to allow those children to maintain access ECHPs.

I mean, I suppose my axe to grind speaks more generally about who gets to codify the classes - three for the middle class so everyone is represented more accurately - and a solitary working class that is expected to absorb the unemployed and unemployable as though it's all much of a muchness.

But it's not much of a muchness at all - it is a gulf of difference that ignores radically different day/lives/ambitions and necessity to make sure that your kids get to school and, crucially, do well.

So Bridget can go bloody whistle or come back with better data that justifies this scathing generalisation.

Yes and that's why I am vehemently against a 1 size fits all (cos it doesn't) education system. We need more free schools, independent schools, specialist schools, vocational schools etc. So that parents have real choice in their area to best meet the needs of each child.

I also believe we should run a voucher system. So each child carries a voucher with them which is the cost of normal per pupil funding eg 8K. If parents so wish, they can then top that up to access specific provision. Many countries already successfully run such a scheme to fund state schools.

Bigot indeed. Did I actually see a clip of her talking to Trevor Phillips stating she agrees that the rights of migrants trump those of British citizens?

Yes. My theory has always been that she was rejected by a ‘posh’ private school boy whilst at Oxford (which she got into having attended a lovely all girls state school). And has carried a boulder on her shoulder ever since. Or something like that..

Spot on. Her step siblings were sent to independent schools I believe, but she wasn't. Then she claims she was "bullied" at Oxford.
She is a bit like Atlas, but weighed down with an inferiority complex. Hence the sneers and snippy comments about children in independent schools etc.