Is there a serial killer in the UK?

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I don't know what to think. It is social media, after all. But . . .

I've seen quite a few TikTok videos recently, all listing a large number of female deaths, all being found in or near a body of water (river, canal, lake). And all ruled as "not suspicious" by the police, even before toxicology reports have been released (if they are even released).

The first video I saw listed 14 women over a period of 30 months, but some comments were saying that there have been other deaths which haven't been reported on. Other videos mention different women.

These deaths are over the country, leading to speculation that it could be a lorry driver.

Does it seem likely, or is this the latest SM scare?

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I don’t know. Does it matter? Rivers can be just as treacherous as the sea, often more so. The sisters in Glasgow died in a river, Rachel Helena was a lake. You’d surely pick the one most convenient for you. Not everyone lives on the coast.

Not sure a serial killer is responsible for these women drowning but certainly there will be serial killers in the UK.

Statiscally yes there will be a serial killer or two on the loose in the UK. The police probably are aware there's a few.

Is it likely to be one that someone on tiktok has spotted but the police haven't connected together as being linked what with all the profiling, dna and other forms of evidence out there?

Highly unlikely.

And the police will still need to catch them.

Tiktok 'sleuths' are more likely to make this more difficult or prejudice any court case that might come out of it, meaning that a serial killer might well walk free (and therefore kill again) because some prats on social media thought this was a good idea to go all Mrs Marple over.

Let the police, do the policing and let tiktok stick to silly viral dances instead.

There probably is - in a population of 70 million, there will likely be one or two, but I doubt the frequency of women found deceased in or near water is the work of a serial killer.

Despondents and those thinking of harming themselves are often drawn to beauty spots, woodland or expanses of water. We have a mental health crisis in the UK at the moment and that is much more likely to be responsible.

Thank you, Bloozie. I think you've shown that my question was relevant!

Ah thank you. I'm fine. I don't think I'll ever understand regardless of counselling and whatever... It's just is what it is now.

I hope you're okay too ❤️ Nice nod to Ian Curtis.

We can never know what goes through another's mind. It fucked me up for a long time, it always will in some way. What it is there to do? Not much really. There will never be answers.

It was on TikTok? It must be true

Right!

Excellent post. Tiktokers need to stick to the vacuous search for validation and silly dances just like you say.

People are becoming incredibly dangerous imo with the advent of SMedia. Ruining people's lives with rattling skull theories and then influencing each other. I wonder how many innocent people have wanted to top themselves because of SMedia sleuthery.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, though I enjoy the phenomena.

However, if you look at cases like Stephen Lawrence, Rachell Nickell, and the Grindr Killer - the police aren't alway right.

I dunno. I find five/seven older couples in the same geographical region, the women all with blunt injuries to the head and multiple knife wounds, the men slitting their own throats or suffocating themselves worthy of note. That's a lot of violent cowardly husbands in a tightly defined geographical area.

Oh I know. It is just that the thread is trying to point to a serial killer as we have one more death in a river of a mother.

I can't be bothered looking at the statistics. Yes of course it happens, 5% is still rare. I would assume more would go to the sea. That said I live in the town that is/was renowned for being the furthest from any coastline. In spite of our old thriving fish market 🤔

Almost certainly, but he won't be found by scrolling on TikTok.

I’m not sure pushing someone into a river and not leaving any trace that you did is satisfying enough for a serial killer.

Sometimes I think social media does work. Look at that cat killer documentary

More people drown inland each year, than at sea - inland waterways are colder, and it's cold water shock that gets most people, there's more miles of accessible river/canal/lake bank than there is seafront, and most drownings are accidental, and it's harder to accidentally enter the sea.

Serial killers exist.
A lot of people go missing or die every year. So yes, there may be one or more unidentifed serial killers in the UK. Its very unlikely but not completely impossible.

Are these deaths the work of a serial killer? I don't think there is any evidence of that at this time and i sure as shit dont think tiktok's got any breaking news.

There are a surprising number of unsolved murders, meaning the perpetrators have got away with it. Some may feasibly be linked, unbeknownst to the investigating police forces.

But I live near the Thames and people fall in all the time. Some are fished out, some drown.

You are most likely to have an accident in your car close to where you live.

Why?
Because a) you use those roads most b) you are more likely to be tired when you drive home c) you take more risks on roads you are most familiar with d) at the end of a long journey you mentally relax and stop making decisions you might at the start of you journey because you are distracted by other shit like whether you have washed school uniform ready for tomorrow.

The principle is the same.

That waterway near your house, is the most dangerous one to you because you see it as safe, you are familiar with it, you pass it most often and you are most likely to walk by it when pissed on your way home from the pub.

Personally I think so but I didn’t get this from tiktock.

A few work colleagues discussed this when Nicola Bulley was found. There was seem to be an increase of women going missing near water round the country. It could be a coincidence or it could just be because we have better access to the news these days that we are more aware of it.

People always laugh at this type of conspiracy theory until the truth comes out.

Exactly. Kids swimming in rivers. Adults free swimming...

They don't court the same publicity because they are tragic accidents.

A man in his 20s drowned recently in a paddling pool. He was letting it down with his younger siblings. Mum and dad out. I can't fully say what happened, but it was an awful awful accident.

When my son was 18 months, I was living with my parents, they had a pond and were in the middle of gating it off.

We searched everywhere for him, it wasn't a big house... I eventually found him giggling behind the sofa... Picked him up, went to find Mum - thigh deep in the pond 🤣 it's not funny and it wasn't. But it was! However, it's awful how many deaths occur in and around water.

Water is the most powerful thing in the world in my mind.

I'll never ever relax around a pool or the sea if my kids are in it. Even though they're adults!

I read in the news about the body of a woman being found wrapped in something - as if she was disposed of. It didn’t sound like drowning or self inflicted at all.

So which are the other cases then apart from Nicola and Rachel Helena?

Agreed, unfortunately I lost my mum this exact way in November last year. It’s definitely more related to rising mental health issues.

It is quite likely that there are multiple serial killers at large in the UK at this moment in time. However it is just speculation to try and link these particular cases to one person. In some of them there was footage which showed that there wasn't anyone else around and it was in a small local where a lorry parked up would have been noticed.

Well thats a completely different scenario though. Clearly the police aren't going to say that's not suspicious.