Is there a serial killer in the UK?

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I don't know what to think. It is social media, after all. But . . .

I've seen quite a few TikTok videos recently, all listing a large number of female deaths, all being found in or near a body of water (river, canal, lake). And all ruled as "not suspicious" by the police, even before toxicology reports have been released (if they are even released).

The first video I saw listed 14 women over a period of 30 months, but some comments were saying that there have been other deaths which haven't been reported on. Other videos mention different women.

These deaths are over the country, leading to speculation that it could be a lorry driver.

Does it seem likely, or is this the latest SM scare?

I live in a smallish city with a river and a marina in it. About 5 people a year die it it. Multiply that across the country and you've got 100 or so people dying every year in our rivers.

You tik tocker is just picking a few that seem like they have a slight correlation and going "Look, serial killer!" for the views. There's no serial killer, it's just coincidence.

Yes, probably there are one or two at all times. Same in most countries I expect.

Related to river deaths probably not.

A lot of loan women going missing near bodies of water why?

This thread again?

Each discussion/thread/fucking Tik-Tok puts it firmer into the minds of vulnerable people as an option. It creates doubt in the minds of bereaved families regarding accidents and intentional acts (see above).

There will be killers that use areas near water and the water itself, yes. Just like dark alleys, rural areas and anywhere else. That does not mean there's one bloke going around that's responsible for everything bad that happens near water, anymore that it was due to Selkies, Mermaids, the Grindylow or the Cutty Dyer.

I would definitely not trust anything that comes from Tik Tok.

People forget how dangerous rivers are.
In days of yore a lot of people particularly women used to die through accidental drowning because they would slip in when crossing bridges, washing or collecting water, and were unable to swim or were prevented by clothing.
All these factors been lessened by social changes but none of them have completely disappeared. It’s still possible to slip in while walking your dog along the towpath, not everyone can swim, jeans aren’t a great thing to try to swim in.
One of the drownings a few months ago was near me and honestly anyone who knows the river involved would have no doubt that accidental drowning would be the easiest thing in the world: fast flowing, steep banks with nowhere easy to climb out, muddy path with isolated stretches where nobody would hear you.

I think this is a popular urban legend that twists to fit whatever victim has been chosen for the current narrative.

Someone has already mentioned the Manchester Canal deaths; there is also a conspiracy theory in the US about an online, national group of killers killing young men by drowning and leaving smiley face graffiti behind.

Sadly, people drown, sometimes. Death tolls will be higher when we have mild/hot weather like we have lately.

This makes me thing about Nicola Bulley. What a heartbreaking case.

The vast majority of drownings happen to men. When it happens to a woman, especially one that fits certain criteria, it will get more coverage from the media.

Water is dangerous. Anyone could slip into a moving body of water or even a pond and drown. You can drown in about 100mls of water or something.

A serial killer wouldn't just push someone into water, they wouldn't be able to guarantee the person had died. Which I think would be the MO of most serial killers, to finish someone off.

This is why they shouldnt have removed the laughing emoji.

No. Why don’t people speak about the real issue? Women suffering with their mental health and failing to get the correct support.

I don’t think women are being killed. I think it’s a lot more scary, which is that women can’t cope and are killing themselves I feel like walking into water today as my kids are driving me insane.

Because if they weren’t alone someone would have been able to assist them or raise the alarm.

My slightly ditzy nephew slipped and fell into an icy canal once. Luckily his competent older brother was on hand to carry out the rescue techniques he had learned at scouts, and stretched out a stick for him to grab hold of and pulled him in.

Unfortunately canal and river deaths are all too common. There are a number of drownings (mostly young men) that happen around Manchester which has given rise to rumours of a serial killer nicknamed "The Pusher "

Police has refused the claims, but every time there a death in the canals, the rumour resurfaces.

Sadly I think a lot of these are tragic accidents, but often people want to read more into it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Pusher

Unless it's a tiktok that says don't believe anything you see on tiktok

Of course there isn't, not unless it's a very fortunate one that happens to be there at the time.

What a silly thing to question.

That said there are always a percentage of different serial killers working at any time in this country. Any country.

They're all around you....

No, not a serial killer. Most will be suicides.

I've seen quite a few TikTok videos recently

I’d suggest watching fewer

Is there a serial killer in the UK due to some women being found drowned? Let me think? No.

Rachel Helena Langley most likely had an acute mental health crisis and sent messages or left some other clue alerting the police where to look. She had already been reported missing at the time she was spotted at the garage so obviously her family was very worried about her. If it was actually suspicious what motive does the police have for pretending otherwise.

As for Nicola Bulley we now know that was an accident and the extreme ridiculous interest from the public was embarrassing quite frankly and with both her and Helena, I doubt it would have been so intense if she was overweight and unattractive.

I am not aware of any other cases BUT water is dangerous. So it makes sense that if people die accidentally, it will be from falling in water, falling from a height, getting struck by a vehicle. It’s not going to happen sitting on the lawn at home is it? If you fall in a river or lake it’s very hard to get out, especially if you’ve also been drinking. so of course you will find bodies in water.

Also, where someone wants to take their own life, they may jump in water deliberately or jump off a height or walk into traffic.

😂😉

No there's not.

Of course there are, there will statistically be several serial killers operating in the UK today. I don’t think any of them are pushing people into bodies of water though.

There are many serial killers that have become so despite location tracking, ring doorbells, and cctv. After all, the most prolific rapist In British legal history was only operating a few years ago, in a major city centre, recording the assaults, and bragging about it online, and still managed to assault hundreds of people.

I don’t think we will see a manhunt style serial killer like the Yorkshire ripper again but there very definitely are serial killers, in many different incarnations, from Lucy Letby to terrorists and spree killers.

TikTok is a platform for scaremongering and misinformation imo. However that doesn’t mean that there aren’t serial killers out there- in all probability there are. With upgrades to technology ie ring doorbells and cctv this would make it more difficult however if someone was that intent on committing murder they would research and find ways- for instance people who might go very much unnoticed and not be reported missing for a substantial period of time, thus making the date of disappearance hard to pinpoint and therefore CCTV harder to come by.

It's a ridiculous theory.

For a start, is there even a rise in the number of deaths of lone females in water? Has anyone actually checked?

A decade ago a woman went missing in our small market town. Her shoes and bag were found placed neatly under a bridge by the local river - usually quite small, but at the time a raging torrent due to flooding. Two months later her body was found washed up on the beach nearly 100 miles away. She had been carried from our local river to a bigger river then a bigger river still, and from there to the coast. Never considered suspicious but also never hit the headlines beyond the local paper.

I imagine these days the story would be picked over endlessly by armchair experts in currents and river flows