Eating animals

[Bearsaloud]

To me killing animals and keeping them the way we do should be illegal. And them queuing up to be killed in an abbatoir and scream on the way in. It's barbaric and medieval in my opinion. Eat something else!

If everybody who ate meat did it that way, I do not think this argument would exist in the way that it does now.

I’m sure there are people out there entirely comfortable with killing humans. Doesn’t make it right even if they want to eat them.

Yes, eating the entirely normal omnivorous diet we've evolved to thrive on is just a needless indulgence. I'll get my hair shirt.

I’ll bite (no pun intended 😆).

I eat a small amount of meat that has a local provenance and is good quality because I can afford to.

If my circumstances were different though, and I was on a very low wage and had to feed four children; I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the best quality supermarket chicken I could afford every so often and I would be very grateful for it.

I’m sorry but I think a lot of people who avoid eating meat on principle because they don’t agree with killing animals are missing a fundamental point about nature; which is, that death is everywhere in the wild. I live in the countryside and I am surrounded by death every day. Death is part of nature just as much as life is. The same with farming, if you have live stock, then you have dead stock too.

Animals naturally eat one another. We eat animals. Insects eat the remains. It’s natural and it’s the way the natural world functions.

Now of course we have to lobby for as good welfare standards for farmed animals in the food chain as possible. But I don’t think there is anything wrong fundamentally with one animal (us) eating another animal (a leg of lamb) for example. And in terms of social justice, I am glad that children whose parents live on a minimum wage can eat chicken and sausages and that meat is not only for rich people.

The challenge is to improve welfare standards and meat quality and keep pressurising supermarkets to enforce high standards, something we have made more difficult for ourselves post-Brexit.

I can do better than that. We slaughter are own chickens and guinea fowl for our own private consumption.

Yeah, but bacon.

A life of misery - what all of them? In my experience most farmers take the welfare of their animals pretty seriously, the animals I see around here look to be enjoying life well enough.

Is it just humans you object to killing animals? What about other animals killing, which can often be quite brutal. Should we get rid of every animal in the world, what a wonderful place it would be then.

I often get the impression the average MNer hasn't a clue about farming and relies on their information from organisations with an agenda.

Or maybe just think for themselves and don’t see the point ( or humanity ) of humans killing animals for food.

We should all reduce our consumption of meat. Have a least one day a week being vegetarian. Think about how many animals are killed everyday just for us to eat. There are more chickens than humans would you believe! The meat industry is mass produced, there no way the animals are treated well on that scale. Pigs are very much like dogs in fact they're cleverer and can do tricks. You can watch videos online it's quite fascinating. But people in the west don't eat dog but will eat pig.

I'm not a vegetarian by the way but these farm
animals do have feelings. Cows are like big dogs too. Chickens cuddling up to owners as well. They're not robots.

And once again, they are okay with animals killing other animals for food, just not humans? Okay then.

I don't think this will happen at all

You are wrong, your findings are based on a minority of bad abattoirs and you have generalised this, these places are fined/punished/shut down. Meat is a good part of a balanced diet. Animals are bred for eating.

75% population in UK are meat eaters

At least you're not hypocrites. My DH doesn't want to hear anything about how the steak gets on his dinner table.

Which is his prerogative?

No they would be expected to stop excessively breading them

Great, more unnatural shit lab-made food, as if we were not eating enough shit UPF already. And we wonder why some diseases are on the rise...

Because we are not animals. They don’t have the same morality or choices as we do.
they live in the wild, they don’t shop in supermarkets. Animals rape and eat their own young, do you think it’s okay for us to do that just because they do?

There are in my opinion more cruel things.
For example, having illegal inmigrants picking up strawberries and other fruit/vegetables in bad conditions and paying them a ridicoulours wage. I am from an european country where this happens, are you still eating the fruit/vegetables? Of course you are. Do you ever think what goes behind your fruit and vegetables and if maybe are humans suffering in that industry? Even when you buy cheap clothes?we all know that some clothes come from factories where the conditions are awful, even children work in some of them.

I personally care more about humans suffering than animals being killed for food (but of course I would like this to be done as humanly as possible)

Um, you do realise that supermarkets are where people buy their meat from.

I'm imagining a whole lot of MNers living in the middle of cities or large towns, without a clue about farming - and as I've already said, obtaining their "facts" from people with an agenda.

Yes I do hate you

This is exactly what I mean. It's barbaric

What's the bible got to do with anything?

And they shouldn't be. This is my problem

i could never do that.