Eating animals

[Bearsaloud]

To me killing animals and keeping them the way we do should be illegal. And them queuing up to be killed in an abbatoir and scream on the way in. It's barbaric and medieval in my opinion. Eat something else!

If we didn't keep them in the way that we do, livestock would roam everywhere and turn into wild (and potentially dangerous) vermin. Personally, I'd rather see a field of contented cows than have to dodge around them on a busy main road at speed...

If killing animals should be illegal, are we still allowed to put them down for welfare reasons, e.g. severe ill health or broken legs? What about when they are much older, and suffer from age-related illnesses? If it was me, I'd rather be put down than suffer.

Providing that the animals are not designated for meat for certain religious groups, they are permitted to be stunned before slaughter.

You have a right to your opinions, and so do other people. Personally, I'd prefer to eat more natural things like meat, fish, fruit and veg (and all of the vitamins and minerals that come from them) than a diet full of UPFs. Also, some animals would still have to be slaughtered to make things like dog and cat food...

what about breaking their necks or shooting them or drowning them in air?

Sounds beautiful

I said.
they live in the here and now and if they're well treated, they're happy.

That's why, when you get an animal out of an abusive situation and into one where they're loved and well cared for, they are...

wait for it

here it comes

happy.

My cat was a rescue. Came to me so malnourised it had stunted her growth.

She was a mess.

She is now happy, contented, and a benevolent dictator.

There's no doubt it's cruel

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic.
But his chooks knew nothing but love before they died.

I get your point to be honest I used to fox hunt so doesn’t massively bother me personally but I’m not sure why eating animals is fine or keeping animals in an inhumane way to use their produce.. how is that any better? Worse in a way because their quality of life may not be the best.

So what do you think about other animals eating animals? Is a tiger attacking and eating an antelope as it slowly dies just as barbaric? Are they equally as cuntish in your eyes? Or is that the natural order of things? And if you feel they are following the natural order, then why do you think we’re not?

Do you sniff arse holes?

Animals eat each other alive. That is perfectly normal behaviour from their perspective.

Hou do realise that you can’t actually grows anything without killing wildlife? All those creatures that get in the way of you growing crops or may eat or damage them.

The majority of people respect life,animal or human.

So would you eat her? Now you’ve given her a good life? Or let her be killed unnaturally for someone else to eat?

I don't think they are sentient enough to 'scream on the way in'. A lot comes down to how much they can sense what is going to happen, surely?

Anyway, you can't beat fillet steak seared with garlic and rosemary 😍

I agree. I never have myself and never will.

Agree. I don't think it is cruel at all and it is the most natural thing. The same as when I see an animal killing another in a nature documentary...it is kind of sad to watch but it is part of life. Most animals eat other animals.

Yep, I have seen posts on FB from animal rescues pleading with people to stop bringing in wild animals that were being mauled by other wild animals.
They are just wanting to eat. By taking the prey animal away, you are depriving the predator, and potentially their young, of a meal.

By all means, bring in an animal that has been hit by a car etc...but in the process of being a meal for another animal... let them be.

Animals have "souls" ?

Why does it matter to OP that they have a "soul" and what is a "soul" anyway? Is OP saying animals live with humans in an afterlife?

I really would prefer an afterlife without headlice, fleas, mosquitos, tapeworms, catshit ... myself.

It is cruel. But it's the food industry. Money talks and 1000s of people are in the business all over the world
How will we replace those food products and what about the livelihoods. So no meat, milk, cheese in theory. I'd rather we stopped eg Donkey skin gelatin production for China and the illegal trade in animals and animals products first

Factory farming is abhorrent.
I don’t consume any animal products but I can’t bear to get into discussions about it.
I might break that personal rule and start sending my mum vegan propaganda in an effort to get her to stop sending me horrible, racist videos that she gets from Facebook.

Depends how hungry I was.

But seriously, different animals are bred and kept for different reasons and that's why whataboutery is an ineffective argument and not the gotcha some people seem to think it is. It's the sort of argument children make because they haven't got enough experience to understand things and they have a very black and white, simplistic way of thinking. If X is wrong then Y is wrong when really, X is wrong for X and Y may be wrong for X but right for Y because X is not Y and Y is not X.

Would I eat my cat? Probably not. It would have to be a starvation situation before I'd start looking that close to home.

Would I eat any of the pigs on the farm? Yes.

Why?

Because my cat is in my life as a pet and the pigs (and sheep and chickens) are in my life as income and / or food.

That doesn't mean they aren't treated well. In fact, I think if you are going to breed animals for slaughter then you owe them the best care and best life.

Some people would argue that if you're going to slaughter them then you might as well abuse them their whole life which is the most ridiculous, childish argument ever and anyone who comes up with that bollocks is not someone worth responding to.

And yes, that's an actual argument that's been posted on this very website, more than once.

I remember watching a wildlife programme where an impala was giving birth and couldn't run away from the lion who was watching her.

The lion killed her savagely before the impala lamb was born. So much more humane. Dinner for all of the pride.

What has sniffing an arsehole got to do with anything?

I saw a video of a zebra run through a lake full of crocodiles. It got to land and started fussing with its stomach... there was a massive hole (from being bitten) and it's innards just fell out of it. And it still stood there nibbling and not knowing what was wrong.

You seem to be comparing yourself to a tiger, you tell me. 😆

Do you think it’s painless? Honestly the mind boggles.

You had better live on air then
www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/plants-can-talk-yes-really-heres-how