Taxes to rise to fund PIP

[Viviennemary]

I just read this, Don't agree with this at all. PIP needs to be reformed. But not by introducing this two tier system. Sick of Labour already. Might have know they would revert to type. With all the infighting and disagreement so nothing ever gets done except back peddling, increased taxes and prices rises.

Exactly.

16 months ago my son was healthy and I was working full time. Life was so very different.

Then everything changed.

No one thinks it can happen to them or their child until it does.

I think this is part of the DWP’s propaganda machine, selecting ‘anxiety’ as the ‘main condition’ when it’s a side-effect of another condition, such as eg rheumatoid arthritis that means one is anxious about falling in public places, being immune suppressed from biologic treatments, in constant debilitating pain, and unable to safely lift a kettle.

Same for my best friend. She became disabled and it had an affect on her mental health. She spent a month in a psych ward as a result. She loved her job and it paid well and all of a sudden, she could not longer do it.

What about bipolar, schizophrenia etc would they pass?

I have been on several threads with you ,your son deserves everything he gets he's been hell
I hope you don't have to fight when he transfers to PIP.

You do have to claim it

Personally I think it’s un achievable

I want to live in a society where the tax spend is well thought out, fair and stands up well to scrutiny.

Thread police... ODFOD

If i had a million quid sitting in my bank their is absolutely no way in hell I would put myself through the pip process. It's horrific I overdosed the first time I was applying for pip and ended up off work for 2 months it literally broke me.

Edit sorry that was supposed to be seperate and not tagged to yours

My son was 8 when it happened. He completely stopped talking and would pick his lips/fingers/skin until he bled because he was so stressed about everything.

He spent a long time in hospital due to what happened. He missed so much school and was convinced friends had forgotten him, he also then had to come to terms with the fact that he now needed to be in a wheelchair which meant he could no longer be a goalkeeper or ride his scooter or run around with his mates.

He did start talking again after some time and then he went through a stage of rage. I'll never forget holding my little boy whilst he sobbed in my arms screaming ''Why did this happen to me? I hate my life''.

It was an awful, awful time. Thankfully, he is in a better place now but of course, has his ups and downs. The downs are more manageable now and less frequent after 16 months.

Did I say you specifically?

It makes no sense and yet it happens on a regular basis.

But people who are working and not getting support is not my fault. I can do exactly zero about it.

Miss the point much.

I have a feeling that I will, unfortunately.

I feel like we got really lucky with DLA in the fact that he got HRC and HRM right away and awarded until his 16th birthday. It shows how broken it all is when I feel so fortunate for my son simply getting what he's entitled to.

well what point were you making? As a benefit claimant, what can i do about people are not entitled to help?

I'm old enough to remember when any business that employed more than 6 people had to have a minimum percentage of disabled employees. How times have changed.

You got it as he was clearly entitled to it
I know the PIP criteria is different but imo that shouldn't change anything for your son.

Yes very. Many thread on MN moaning about poor customer service which is down to disabilities.
They want us to work but then moan when we do as we cant perform as well as everyone else.

I work 2 days a week. Recently had to drop down from 3 as pain was bad and mobility was worse. Diagnosed a decade ago with a condition. Have lots of medication, physio, therapy, related conditions all proven with evidence. I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. Repeatedly dislocate my joints (multiple times a day) as part of these. Walk using aids. Applied and given pip a decade ago. Had my 3rd review recently and they took it away. Essentially said I could work and drive so I was fine. Didn’t matter than I work 80 days each year or that I can only drive automatic and if it’s under an hour and I’ve not dislocated anything major that day. The fact that I regularly fall over or down stairs when a joint in my leg dislocates or that I’m on 20 tablets a day to cope. So it’s not always obvious and clear when someone is genuinely disabled. And disabled people often work.

When through appeal and got it all back, with back pay. Bc I’m clearly disabled. But I’m also university educated with a strong support system and still struggled to appeal as it’s all so complex and confusing.

There is zero appetite for businesses to employ disabled people. I follow someone on Twitter who looks online at what fully remote jobs are available now, almost none.

I worked somewhere where a member of staff had a degenerative disease and was in a wheelchair. HR had recognised she had gotten ‘slower’ in the last year and were talking about how they could get rid. That’s the reality. No one else would take her on after that. Employers want employees who are always up to speed and don’t get sick and aren’t constantly going to appointments.
Im a carer and getting a job is almost impossible as it needs to be flexible, and no one wants to offer jobs like that.

They can cut PIP when they introduce supportive/flexible jobs as standard. So never.

One off Cash payments is a clear attempt at getting votes. Nothing more.
Its pathetic

Farage is great at gaming the system and dragging everyone down with him.

Err……horrible man. and that’s coming from a parent who had kids at the same school as his.
He’ll do anything, it’s not about supporting others its all about him

How about fundamental reforms? Ie. Idea 1. You can only vote if you pay tax or have paid taxes for at least 30 years of your life. Idea 2 for those who are unemployed but do not have disability or other issues, they should not get benefits if they do not take up jobs that are available and offered to them and equally if they do not turn up to jobs and do them they have their benefits removed. idea 3 do not give people cash or money but pay their benefit bills directly and give them cards to spend money only on food and necessary items at supermarkets, NOT on clothes, cigarettes and alcohol idea 4 disability card shouldn’t be fancy cars but should be normal bog standard cars that are marked as free disability cars. Idea 5 people have to pay for missed appointments at the doctors and hospitals (if on benefits the charge comes out of their benefits) idea 6 if you are on disability payments because of health issues you must be on treatment including counselling and medication

How about no, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

ps of course people who are disabled and cannot work should have a safety net.

Ok how much tax did you pay last yr?

How about you FOTTFSOF and mind your own business. My disability and its treatment is between me and my consultant, not some random idiot on the internet. My income is between me and HMRC, ditto.

When this comes up you get posts from disabled people who go on about how their employer is supportive and bends over backwards to accommodate them.
They then go on to mention they have been in their job for years and are very skilled/qualified/experienced and became disabled after they were in their job.
Not seen anyone get a WFH job yet where the disabled person has not worked for years and has no qualifications.
Plenty of threads on MN mentioning how awful the job market is right now. Able bodied people with loads of experience are struggling to get work.