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Taxes to rise to fund PIP

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Viviennemary · 27/06/2025 11:20

I just read this, Don't agree with this at all. PIP needs to be reformed. But not by introducing this two tier system. Sick of Labour already. Might have know they would revert to type. With all the infighting and disagreement so nothing ever gets done except back peddling, increased taxes and prices rises.

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alexalisten · 28/06/2025 06:44

TigerRag · 28/06/2025 06:39

Because there's something wrong with the system? 70â„… go to tribunal and win

Think of how much money would be saved if pip assessors did their job correctly first time

Lifesd · 28/06/2025 06:51

samarrange · 27/06/2025 12:46

Apologies for the slight derail, but: I always laugh when people threaten to move abroad, whether it's "If Labour get in" or "If the Tories get in". Ditto in the US, "If Trump/Harris wins I'm moving to Canada".

Very few of these people ever move. And a lot of them come home after a short time with their tails between their legs.

Moving to another country is hard. You lose all your daily social life. Absolutely everything works differently — something as simply as "going to the doctor and getting a prescription and going to the pharmacy" is different in France and different again in the Netherlands. If you move to a non-English speaking country you have to deal with the language barrier, and wherever you go, it turns out that most adults are not in the market for new friends (and those who are, are not always the kinds of people who you would want to be friends with). And abroad also has income tax and traffic jams and bad bosses and government bureaucracy.

People make fun of working-class Brits who have saved a bit of money and up sticks at 58 and move to Spain, but I think they are immensely brave. And yes, many of them don't learn much Spanish, but then learning the two forms of the imperfect subjunctive probably isn't on any early retiree's to-do list.

Maybe if you are a billionaire and don't have any "normal" friends then it's less hard. Going to soirées at the George V in Paris isn't all that much different to going to soirées at the Dorchester. But for normal people with friends and family it's a huge decision.

It is very hard, I’ve recently done it but that also proves that something is very very wrong in the UK if people are desperate to leave and can’t see a future. Out of a group of 12 friends at uni I would say just over half of us live overseas now.

TheAutumnCrow · 28/06/2025 07:02

This is a good article today by Faisal Islam, the BBC Economics Editor. He has questions of Rachel Reeves, the Labour Chancellor:

‘Significant questions arise about just how stability and credibility-enhancing it really is to tweak fiscal plans every six months to hit Budget targets that change due to market conditions, with changes that cannot be ultimately enacted.’

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m8w7y10ggo

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Littlebutloud · 28/06/2025 07:04

UnpopularOpinion212 · 27/06/2025 11:36

I would stop PIP for all anxiety-related issues after 6 months, unless due to physical aggression / PTSD.

You can’t get PIP for anxiety (you could note it down as secondary condition as part of an application). There is a lot misinformation about - including that disability Benifit’s have ‘soared’ and are predicated to keep ‘soaring.’

Lioncub2020 · 28/06/2025 07:11

Lifesd · 28/06/2025 06:51

It is very hard, I’ve recently done it but that also proves that something is very very wrong in the UK if people are desperate to leave and can’t see a future. Out of a group of 12 friends at uni I would say just over half of us live overseas now.

There's definitely a brain drain going on at the moment. I worked in an international team in London a white ago. Other than me every one of those people now work in Europe, I now run a business that can be based anywhere so I'm seriously considering moving out too. We used to be a country that welcomed entrepreneurs - now too many people seem to think they should be taxed into oblivion. The UK is ending up with more and more unskilled people taking from the system and less people contributing. It is going to have to massively shift soon. We just can't afford all the sweeties we give out to people.

Julen7 · 28/06/2025 07:16

Littlebutloud · 28/06/2025 07:04

You can’t get PIP for anxiety (you could note it down as secondary condition as part of an application). There is a lot misinformation about - including that disability Benifit’s have ‘soared’ and are predicated to keep ‘soaring.’

Official figures show that health related benefits have soared since Covid - how can this be misinformation ?

Lioncub2020 · 28/06/2025 07:18

Littlebutloud · 28/06/2025 07:04

You can’t get PIP for anxiety (you could note it down as secondary condition as part of an application). There is a lot misinformation about - including that disability Benifit’s have ‘soared’ and are predicated to keep ‘soaring.’

The OBR reports that the number of claimants have doubled in the past 5 years alone. If that isn't a soaring cost I don't what is.

MotherPuppr · 28/06/2025 07:19

I've not lived in the UK for a while but if I understand correctly PIP is a benefit that the recipient can spend as they wish (I'm not suggesting it's a huge sum of money). Australia has the NDIS which is set according to your level of disability and it can only be used for set purposes and with government approved providers eg my friend's little boy gets physio and speech therapy with clinicians who (if I understand correctly) then invoice the NDIS.

Wonder if that would be a better system, and then those who have anxiety etc could use PIP on therapy.

MotherPuppr · 28/06/2025 07:19

I've not lived in the UK for a while but if I understand correctly PIP is a benefit that the recipient can spend as they wish (I'm not suggesting it's a huge sum of money). Australia has the NDIS which is set according to your level of disability and it can only be used for set purposes and with government approved providers eg my friend's little boy gets physio and speech therapy with clinicians who (if I understand correctly) then invoice the NDIS.

Wonder if that would be a better system, and then those who have anxiety etc could use PIP on therapy.

Poynsettia · 28/06/2025 07:21

It’s hopeless really.
Mention cutting benefits and you get endless examples of the worst case scenarios. Which shuts down proper debate.

its like the Transgender debate- and the suicide numbers (which were false)

So often it seems to be single mothers trying to manage a severely disabled child - but are there no siblings of the mothers, DGPs, DFs?
Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area.
Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc
its just hopeless -and David Cameron claimed DLA -well I’m surprised.
I can’t believe other countries fund like this and I don’t think anywhere else has a motability scheme -I wonder why not.

alexalisten · 28/06/2025 07:25

Poynsettia · 28/06/2025 07:21

It’s hopeless really.
Mention cutting benefits and you get endless examples of the worst case scenarios. Which shuts down proper debate.

its like the Transgender debate- and the suicide numbers (which were false)

So often it seems to be single mothers trying to manage a severely disabled child - but are there no siblings of the mothers, DGPs, DFs?
Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area.
Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc
its just hopeless -and David Cameron claimed DLA -well I’m surprised.
I can’t believe other countries fund like this and I don’t think anywhere else has a motability scheme -I wonder why not.

It would make no difference where i live im under four difference trusts all of which are nowhere near each other. I have to go north for neurology, south for vascular and west for cardiology.

Jayinthetub · 28/06/2025 07:30

My 19yo Nephew receives almost £600/month on PIP for having ADHD. He is immature, lives at home with his enabling mother and spends all night on his ps5 gaming with friends across the world and all day sleeping. His money goes on weed, snacks, clothes and Pokémon cards. In a better system (with different parents but don’t get me started on that one) he would be supported and encouraged by the system into working which he is physically capable of. He has lots of friends living similar lifestyles which just shouldn’t be enabled.

I pay high tax as does DH and don’t begrudge any genuine in-work or non-working claimants - I in fact think the rate should be higher as it doesn’t offer a reasonable income to those who genuinely need it to exist. I also think more effort should be ongoing to support those who want to and are able to work, access suitable jobs/maintain careers by creating inclusive opportunities and encouraging employers to be more inclusive.

I agree with pp who worry about the avalanche of perfectly able young people who will be claiming PIP for mental health, anxiety, ADHD etc and have no intention of working/trying to work or supporting themselves.

plantsnpants · 28/06/2025 07:30

I am sick and tired of giving money to a broke system that wastes it that people are allowed to abuse.

money is not the solution to disability- inclusion and support would help so much more.

clearly there are many people who need it but also many who don’t. Why should I work so many hours just to be taxed for someone not to work?

There are too many people wiling to take out of the system without putting into it - it’s madness

Why should I pay so much of my wage to the nhs and not be able to get an appointment and get the same service or worse because I am not as high risk to the community or myself as someone who doesn’t pay in? I have spent 3 months trying to get a gp appointment - the system is broken.

the U-turn on the pip has literally pushed voters into the hands of reform

Bumpitybumper · 28/06/2025 07:31

Poynsettia · 28/06/2025 07:21

It’s hopeless really.
Mention cutting benefits and you get endless examples of the worst case scenarios. Which shuts down proper debate.

its like the Transgender debate- and the suicide numbers (which were false)

So often it seems to be single mothers trying to manage a severely disabled child - but are there no siblings of the mothers, DGPs, DFs?
Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area.
Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc
its just hopeless -and David Cameron claimed DLA -well I’m surprised.
I can’t believe other countries fund like this and I don’t think anywhere else has a motability scheme -I wonder why not.

I am also fed up of the hyper bole and worst case scenarios constantly wheeled out on threads like this. Also the accusations that you want disabled people dead just because you dare to suggest that some reform is necessary.

I get it to some extent. It's an emotive subject and people are used to a certain standard of living. When there was less people claiming these benefits and therefore more money to go around then certain things were possible that aren't possible now with so many more claimants. The options are that you weaken the provision for everyone or you are stricter about who you offer the provision to. Your Motability example is a good one. There are people that will argue until their blue in the face that disabled people should be entitled to buy a luxury vehicle part funded by the state. They will stress they pay the excess over and above a basic model but the obvious question is why is the state part funding luxury cars for anyone? Couldn't the disabled person just use the money they obviously have available to buy a basic car? They will respond how a BMW is absolutely essential and that they should be entitled to choice like everyone else but they don't seem to notice or care that this choice is at everyone else's expense.

TigerRag · 28/06/2025 07:32

Poynsettia · 28/06/2025 07:21

It’s hopeless really.
Mention cutting benefits and you get endless examples of the worst case scenarios. Which shuts down proper debate.

its like the Transgender debate- and the suicide numbers (which were false)

So often it seems to be single mothers trying to manage a severely disabled child - but are there no siblings of the mothers, DGPs, DFs?
Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area.
Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc
its just hopeless -and David Cameron claimed DLA -well I’m surprised.
I can’t believe other countries fund like this and I don’t think anywhere else has a motability scheme -I wonder why not.

I have to go to a hospital 11 miles away and I've been told that the test I'm waiting for, the only hospital locally that does it is 40 miles away

I don't live rurally. I live in a major city on the edge of the city centre

Julen7 · 28/06/2025 07:34

plantsnpants · 28/06/2025 07:30

I am sick and tired of giving money to a broke system that wastes it that people are allowed to abuse.

money is not the solution to disability- inclusion and support would help so much more.

clearly there are many people who need it but also many who don’t. Why should I work so many hours just to be taxed for someone not to work?

There are too many people wiling to take out of the system without putting into it - it’s madness

Why should I pay so much of my wage to the nhs and not be able to get an appointment and get the same service or worse because I am not as high risk to the community or myself as someone who doesn’t pay in? I have spent 3 months trying to get a gp appointment - the system is broken.

the U-turn on the pip has literally pushed voters into the hands of reform

I think this is what the Labour rebels just don’t get

Rosscameasdoody · 28/06/2025 07:34

Pogpog21 · 27/06/2025 23:11

How about fundamental reforms? Ie. Idea 1. You can only vote if you pay tax or have paid taxes for at least 30 years of your life. Idea 2 for those who are unemployed but do not have disability or other issues, they should not get benefits if they do not take up jobs that are available and offered to them and equally if they do not turn up to jobs and do them they have their benefits removed. idea 3 do not give people cash or money but pay their benefit bills directly and give them cards to spend money only on food and necessary items at supermarkets, NOT on clothes, cigarettes and alcohol idea 4 disability card shouldn’t be fancy cars but should be normal bog standard cars that are marked as free disability cars. Idea 5 people have to pay for missed appointments at the doctors and hospitals (if on benefits the charge comes out of their benefits) idea 6 if you are on disability payments because of health issues you must be on treatment including counselling and medication

This is one of the most ableist and offensive posts l’ve ever seen on MN. To take your ‘ideas’ one by one;

Idea 1. Tying the ability to vote to the length of time you’ve paid taxes is batshit. It’s clear you’ve linked to immigration to stop people who come to this country from having a say for 30 years, which is bad enough, but you haven’t thought through how that would affect anyone else have you ?

Idea 2. Unemployed people already are sanctioned for not taking up job offers. That’s been the case for years. You are sanctioned for not taking up a job offer and if you leave work voluntarily - including getting yourself sacked - you are ineligible for certain benefits for a time.

Idea 3. Paying people in vouchers or dictating where and what they spend benefit money on is abhorrent. It’s bad enough that you think robbing unemployed people of their autotomy in this way is reasonable, but applying it to disability benefits doesn’t work - disabled people are best placed to decide how their benefit money is spent. That’s the idea behind disability benefits as a cash payment - each disability is different. It’s not a one size fits all situation and people need to be free to decide how best to support themselves.

Idea 4. Your idea that all disability cars should be ‘bog standard’ and all the same is because you’ve clearly swallowed wholesale the shite propagated by the press and the media about motability in recent months. The fact that you’ve formulated this garbage as a result, unfortunately indicates that the propaganda works. Motability cars are not provided by the tax payer. Motability is financed by private enterprise and charity, and negotiates with car manufacturers who supply the vehicles for the scheme at discounted prices. The higher rate mobility allowance used to finance the vehicle leases is paid to around 39% of claimants who have the most severe disabilities and who would most benefit from the scheme. Not all use the scheme and the allowance is paid regardless of that. So that’s where tax payer input ends apart from the usual exemptions which apply to all disabled people whether buying a car privately or leasing through the scheme. And just to be clear the claimant never owns a motability car - they are leased over three or five years and handed back at the end of the lease.

So the type of car people obtain under the scheme is irrelevant. Higher spec models require an extra upfront payment from the claimant themselves - most disabled people choose cars with low or no upfront payments and the idea that they are all riding round in sporty numbers at the tax payers’ expense is rubbish. And a ‘bog standard’ model wouldn’t work. Disability is diverse and complicated and what suits one person, wouldn’t work for someone else. Some people need wheelchair accessible vehicles - what are they supposed to do ?

And the notion that disabled drivers should be ‘marked’ so that they can be identified as ‘free’ is just nasty, and so far over the line of outright ableism l don’t know where to start with it. For a start they are not free - the claimant hands over their mobility allowance for the duration of the lease, along with any advance payment due. So perhaps you’d like those people who don’t use their allowance in this way to walk around with a sign on their backs identifying them as mobility allowance recipients - better yet, maybe we should identify all benefit claimants in this way ?

The government issue blue invalid car of fifty years ago identified drivers as disabled. They were scrapped in favour of the motability scheme, partly in recognition that singling disabled people out like this is discriminatory. The fact that you would want to reinstate something similar when it serves no purpose other than to humiliate disabled claimants and would likely increase disability hate crimes, frankly says more about you than it does the disabled.

I have some sympathy for idea five - a small charge for missing appointments notice is reasonable l think. But that should apply across the board, not just to benefit claimants, and not where there is a valid and unavoidable reason for missing the appointment.

Idea 6. Disabled doesn’t mean ill. Not all disabled people receive or require ongoing treatment of the type you describe. Many are monitored and have minimum input because their conditions are stable. That doesn’t make them any less disabled or any less in need of assistance in recognition of the impairment their disability causes. This one ‘idea’ alone proves that you know next to nothing about disability and you’re coming from a place of ignorance and bias.

idea 7 - mine. I was going to ask MN to delete your post on the grounds that it’s ableist in the extreme, and as such is offensive. But then l had idea 8 - let it stand so that everyone here can see exactly what you are.

Frostiesflakes · 28/06/2025 07:45

PandoraSocks · 27/06/2025 23:38

I reckon @Pogpog21 would like to see Motability cars stamped with an inverted black triangle. I really have never read such a hateful post.

I’m old enough to remember that disabilities cars back in 70s were an invacar which was like a three wheeler robin reliant in pale blue color

they were supplied by the government is you were disabled
basically very similar van in Only Fools and Horses but in pale blue 😂
my parents neighbor had one if i remember rightly it was electric

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 07:48

Until I joined Mumsnet I had no idea how much some of the general public hate disabled people. It is so very depressing.

Some of you will find out one day what it's like to be despised for your disability.

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 07:49

Frostiesflakes · 28/06/2025 07:45

I’m old enough to remember that disabilities cars back in 70s were an invacar which was like a three wheeler robin reliant in pale blue color

they were supplied by the government is you were disabled
basically very similar van in Only Fools and Horses but in pale blue 😂
my parents neighbor had one if i remember rightly it was electric

Yes, my FiL had one when my DH was a child. I think lots of people on this thread would like to see their return!

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 07:52

Rosscameasdoody · 28/06/2025 07:34

This is one of the most ableist and offensive posts l’ve ever seen on MN. To take your ‘ideas’ one by one;

Idea 1. Tying the ability to vote to the length of time you’ve paid taxes is batshit. It’s clear you’ve linked to immigration to stop people who come to this country from having a say for 30 years, which is bad enough, but you haven’t thought through how that would affect anyone else have you ?

Idea 2. Unemployed people already are sanctioned for not taking up job offers. That’s been the case for years. You are sanctioned for not taking up a job offer and if you leave work voluntarily - including getting yourself sacked - you are ineligible for certain benefits for a time.

Idea 3. Paying people in vouchers or dictating where and what they spend benefit money on is abhorrent. It’s bad enough that you think robbing unemployed people of their autotomy in this way is reasonable, but applying it to disability benefits doesn’t work - disabled people are best placed to decide how their benefit money is spent. That’s the idea behind disability benefits as a cash payment - each disability is different. It’s not a one size fits all situation and people need to be free to decide how best to support themselves.

Idea 4. Your idea that all disability cars should be ‘bog standard’ and all the same is because you’ve clearly swallowed wholesale the shite propagated by the press and the media about motability in recent months. The fact that you’ve formulated this garbage as a result, unfortunately indicates that the propaganda works. Motability cars are not provided by the tax payer. Motability is financed by private enterprise and charity, and negotiates with car manufacturers who supply the vehicles for the scheme at discounted prices. The higher rate mobility allowance used to finance the vehicle leases is paid to around 39% of claimants who have the most severe disabilities and who would most benefit from the scheme. Not all use the scheme and the allowance is paid regardless of that. So that’s where tax payer input ends apart from the usual exemptions which apply to all disabled people whether buying a car privately or leasing through the scheme. And just to be clear the claimant never owns a motability car - they are leased over three or five years and handed back at the end of the lease.

So the type of car people obtain under the scheme is irrelevant. Higher spec models require an extra upfront payment from the claimant themselves - most disabled people choose cars with low or no upfront payments and the idea that they are all riding round in sporty numbers at the tax payers’ expense is rubbish. And a ‘bog standard’ model wouldn’t work. Disability is diverse and complicated and what suits one person, wouldn’t work for someone else. Some people need wheelchair accessible vehicles - what are they supposed to do ?

And the notion that disabled drivers should be ‘marked’ so that they can be identified as ‘free’ is just nasty, and so far over the line of outright ableism l don’t know where to start with it. For a start they are not free - the claimant hands over their mobility allowance for the duration of the lease, along with any advance payment due. So perhaps you’d like those people who don’t use their allowance in this way to walk around with a sign on their backs identifying them as mobility allowance recipients - better yet, maybe we should identify all benefit claimants in this way ?

The government issue blue invalid car of fifty years ago identified drivers as disabled. They were scrapped in favour of the motability scheme, partly in recognition that singling disabled people out like this is discriminatory. The fact that you would want to reinstate something similar when it serves no purpose other than to humiliate disabled claimants and would likely increase disability hate crimes, frankly says more about you than it does the disabled.

I have some sympathy for idea five - a small charge for missing appointments notice is reasonable l think. But that should apply across the board, not just to benefit claimants, and not where there is a valid and unavoidable reason for missing the appointment.

Idea 6. Disabled doesn’t mean ill. Not all disabled people receive or require ongoing treatment of the type you describe. Many are monitored and have minimum input because their conditions are stable. That doesn’t make them any less disabled or any less in need of assistance in recognition of the impairment their disability causes. This one ‘idea’ alone proves that you know next to nothing about disability and you’re coming from a place of ignorance and bias.

idea 7 - mine. I was going to ask MN to delete your post on the grounds that it’s ableist in the extreme, and as such is offensive. But then l had idea 8 - let it stand so that everyone here can see exactly what you are.

This is an absolutely excellent response to that repulsive tirade of ableism.

Bumpitybumper · 28/06/2025 07:52

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 07:48

Until I joined Mumsnet I had no idea how much some of the general public hate disabled people. It is so very depressing.

Some of you will find out one day what it's like to be despised for your disability.

Very few people hate disabled people. Around a quarter of the population are disabled so it's highly likely that almost everyone has a loved one or friend that is disabled.

It is possible to want reform and a fairer system without hating disabled people. It is this hyper bole that drives division. No nuance allowed. You are either supporter of disability benefits in their current form or a hater of disabled people. The world doesn't work like that. Often disabled people themselves acknowledge reform is needed.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/06/2025 07:56

Julen7 · 28/06/2025 07:34

I think this is what the Labour rebels just don’t get

No, the Labour rebels recognise that PIP is nothing to do with the ability to work and cutting it won’t mean more disabled people in work. PIP isn’t an out of work benefit, it’s designed to help with the cost of living with a disability and the government has deliberately conflated it with out of work benefits to muddy the waters and push through the reforms regardless of the consequences.

And that poster advocates ‘support and inclusion’ rather than cash payments as a solution. What would that look like ? How would that pay for help for disabled people with things they can’t do themselves - a cleaner for example ? How would it pay for increased energy bills due to incontinence ? How would it help someone disabled stay mobile ? How could disabled people access better equipment than the often unsuitable or inadequate provision through social care?

The reality is that there are many people for whom PIP and the associated carers allowance allows them to access family or friend based care and support considerably cheaper than formal social care. If the cut had gone ahead, many people would have lost that and would then be reliant on an already overstretched care system. So as people lost PIP support their needs would have been shifted from one part of the system to another, at considerably increased cost, wiping out any savings from the benefit cuts. And this is exactly what’s going to happen when the cut is applied to new claimants.

There has been no critical thinking here - the cuts have been applied as a blunt instrument to reduce costs with absolutely no consideration of the fact that just because you stop supporting a need, it doesn’t mean that that need disappears.

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 08:02

Bumpitybumper · 28/06/2025 07:52

Very few people hate disabled people. Around a quarter of the population are disabled so it's highly likely that almost everyone has a loved one or friend that is disabled.

It is possible to want reform and a fairer system without hating disabled people. It is this hyper bole that drives division. No nuance allowed. You are either supporter of disability benefits in their current form or a hater of disabled people. The world doesn't work like that. Often disabled people themselves acknowledge reform is needed.

Have you actually read some of the posts on here and other threads?

I am not equating wanting welfare reform with hating disabled people. I am talking about the hateful attitudes towards disabled people and the "othering" of them.

PandoraSocks · 28/06/2025 08:14

Poynsettia · 28/06/2025 07:21

It’s hopeless really.
Mention cutting benefits and you get endless examples of the worst case scenarios. Which shuts down proper debate.

its like the Transgender debate- and the suicide numbers (which were false)

So often it seems to be single mothers trying to manage a severely disabled child - but are there no siblings of the mothers, DGPs, DFs?
Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area.
Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc
its just hopeless -and David Cameron claimed DLA -well I’m surprised.
I can’t believe other countries fund like this and I don’t think anywhere else has a motability scheme -I wonder why not.

Perhaps instead of motability vehicles a taxi allowance which would be cheaper for the tax payer and provide work in the area

This would not be cheaper for the tax payer than a Motability car. It would also be restrictive.

Are you saying it would be fine for a disabled person to have to call a taxi every time they need to go out? Every day when they go to work? What if they want to go on holiday? Or is that not allowed?

Perhaps convert flats in city centres to be suitable for wheelchairs so people aren’t in the arse end of nowhere spending a fortune getting to hospital appointments etc

So wheelchair users shouldn't get a choice about where they live?

This is exactly the sort of "othering" I mentioned.

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