Taxes to rise to fund PIP

[Viviennemary]

I just read this, Don't agree with this at all. PIP needs to be reformed. But not by introducing this two tier system. Sick of Labour already. Might have know they would revert to type. With all the infighting and disagreement so nothing ever gets done except back peddling, increased taxes and prices rises.

But i love you 😍 I can change

Only if you have a Wav. For a car you can extend to 5 years if your mileage is under 20k. The rules changed in January.

I can change

I'll keep everything crossed for you!

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It is your ignorance, pip claimants with mental health issues aren't entitled to a car. Private psychiatrists cost an awful lot more than the lower rate pip pays. People with mental health issues have many of the same problems as people with physical disabilities, cooking, shopping, keeping themselves safe, leaving the house, personal care. Stop PIP for mental health conditions, what are these people supposed to do?

Agree 100% . Some people think autism is like Sheldon from big bang theory or Neil from the middle . Let them spend a week in my shoes , adult 23 year old son non verbal , needs help with all healthcare from taking meds to bath or get dressed . Then come and tell me only physically disabled deserve pip

I agree with so what.

PIP and DLA forms are complicated and overwhelming and many people will need support with filling it in.

I had two social workers help me with DLA form as well as reading an online DLA help guide and a DLA Facebook group with guidelines and advice too.

I don't understand what is wrong with getting help for complicated forms.

You can absolutely qualify for High rate mobility with mental health issues alone.

I sound "guliable" if he's telling me that he's on disability benefits for his mental health? What a strange, strange comment...

We have to find a way to improve the system. Two examples of family members;

• my nephew has global development delay, severe epilepsy following brain damage from meningitis. His prognosis is unknown. My BIL/sis earn well but claim DLA. I truly believe they should receive financial support despite earnings. They have to pay for a nanny and several expensive private appointments due to the waiting lists they encounter in the NHS.
• my aunt has a lifelong condition though worked, is mobile and perfectly capable. She receives PIP and a car every 3 years. They really don’t need this money.

and this is the problem. We need some way of reforming the system to channel resources based on need. A return to in person assessment is essential and I would imagine means testing applied to appropriate elements. As I said previously - we must find a way to raise taxes without looking to high earners. The productivity issues are already crippling

Anyone is entitled to a car, as long as they go out and get a job so they can pay for it. Why should other people have to work not only to afford their own car but someone else's too?

I wouldn't worry about what @alexalisten has to say, I think their shoe size is higher than their IQ 😂

That’s not true. A person with mental ill health scoring descriptor F (Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid) on activity 11 would score 12 points, be entitled to enhanced mobility and could use it on a motability car.

Do you think it is wrong for people to use accountants to minimise their tax bill?

I can't see the problem with this. It is no different to people getting help from CAB or their social worker etc. to fill in the form.

Do you need a hug

No you're guliable to belive someone who tells you they made up dyslexia and agoraphobia to get pip.

As a disability outreach worker this was my experience with many disabled people. Unfortunately unless people have had experience of the PIP assessment system and the unfairness that’s actually built in, they have absolutely no idea of the way in which genuine claimants can be denied benefit.

The contributing factors are too complicated and too many to go into here, but suffice to say that genuine disability is no guarantee of an award, because much depends on the capability of the assessor. Assessors are mainly healthcare professionals - nurses, physios and paramedics. Not doctors. I’ve yet to understand how a couple of weeks training can render someone a ‘disability analyst’ or to understand how a paramedic can be expected to assess complex physical or mental health disability. If we’re going to restrict disability benefits to the more severely disabled. - which seems to be the intention of these cuts, then the least we can do is to make sure that they are properly assessed by healthcare professionals suitably qualified and experienced to do so.

It doesn't vo.off the condition it goes off the how it impacts you
Many people have life long conditions and don't qualify for PIP.
So to get HRM your aunt must significantly impacted by her condition

@OldMcDonaldHadABigMac I feel you are being too generous! 😆

Absolutely nothing is wrong with getting help. Lots of people who are in need, are denied, because the forms are designed in such a way, that makes filling them in, not as straightforward as it would seem.

PIP is not an out of work benefit. People who get PIP can work and pay taxes as well.

What do people want? Benefits for life with no kind of assessment required? It's hundreds of thousands of pounds over a lifetime, of course there needs to be some kind of assessment and re-assessment over time, otherwise it is an open door for fraudsters to con the country (ie, working people) for every penny.

I did work until my son became disabled and my car was then useless as it couldn't accommodate my son's wheelchair so I got a WAV through Motability for my son.

My son is absolutely entitled to go to his hospital appointments etc as safely and as comfortably as possible and the mobility car helps with that.

What services would people prefer funds to be diverted from to keep disability benefits going as they are? Health? Education? Defence?

I have no problem with reassessment I have an issue with the way pip assessors lie and ignore what your consultants tell them I have no issue with a fair assessment