Baby of brain dead woman finally delivered weighing less than 2 pounds

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It’s evil what was done to that poor woman. At one point she was literally rotting just so she could incubate the fetus that little bit longer. He’s finally been born, and he’s so small. They are confident he will make it, but I think they HAVE to say that to justify what they did.

Least she can rest in peace now

Even if it covers the existing bills there may be life long medical care required for the baby and that amount of money will nowhere near cover it in the US.

That’s no way near the same as being 9 weeks pregnant and decaying in a bed whilst legally and clinically dead. Don’t try and pretend it is

Shall I reiterate as you seem to be hard of reading?

Like I said, I don't know.

Why so unpleasant?

I will preface this by saying I do not agree with what happened to this poor woman without her family's permission.

However, lots of people on this thread are referring to this woman as being dead, a "corpse" or "rotting". This is not factually accurate at all. She was being kept alive by machines. So not dead, or a corpse, or rotting.

Obfuscating the facts of the situation and using overly-emotional language doesn't help anyone.

Please read the comment thread @Wavescrashingonthebeach was replying to before attacking her. She wasn't saying it was the same thing at all.

And no, the woman was not decaying, because she was being kept alive by machines. That is the issue here: that she was being kept alive with no hope of recovery. She was not dead, and therefore not decaying.

There was a study, years ago. They found that babies calmed down around certain music. The funniest was the Eastenders theme song. This was because their mums sat down, calmed down and relaxed watching Eastenders while pregnant. What calmed the baby, was whatever had calmed the mum.

The utterly amazing process of creating life is massive underestimated, from conception to BFing. Women's bodies are uniquely built to create life, often at the expense of many processes for the woman herself. Thinking you can take a corpse and use drugs and machines to recreate that is misogyny on a scale I can't fathom.

Poor child.

It's really disturbing. I don't see how a woman who is clinically dead can successfully gestate a healthy child? It wouldn't be able to grow properly surely? It's a very low weight but hope they are alright.

But just imagine the stigma and trauma the kid will face, even if healthy, from having that kind of start in life?

She wasn't kept alive, because she wasn't alive. If you look, there are videos by physicians about what this actually is. All the things they have to do to stop the body breaking down. It's not 'keeping her alive' by any stretch of the imagination.

Because the medical fees for this woman’s care and the fees for the baby’s care are going to put this family into medical debt and/or bankruptcy, which is a very real thing, and you’re wafting on about hoping that the money due will be waived.

The article I linked to above was clear about how, medically, something similar was done in 2019 in Czechia - the nutrients and medications it involved to ensure foetal growth.

Well luckily, what another woman chooses to do with her body is none of your concern. The issue here is that the woman concerned was not able to make a choice.

If someone thought having an abortion/carrying a pregnancy to term was "fucking unhinged", they could shout about it all day long, but it wouldn't give them the right to make that decision for a other woman.

No I am not 'wafting on'. Please actually read my posts.

I shall not engage with you again, you are an extremely unpleasant person.

Please see attached photo. She was dead. Brain dead individuals on life support decompose

That child is likely to develop serious physical and neurological disabilities.

Even if it doesn't, imagine the mental health implications.

That poor mother. That poor, poor family. It makes me sick. It's grotesque and repulsive.

I don't think it's "overly-emotional" language. Life support on a brain dead body is not the same as being alive. And her brain was apparently actively decomposing due to the blood clots that killed her, entirely deprived of oxygen.

I could understand keeping a woman alive for a bit longer if the baby was over 22 weeks gestation and had a chance of surviving but 9 weeks just seems so wrong.
I might have missed it but is the dad of the baby around?

It’s just a screen shot confirming that brain dead individuals do decompose on a ventilator. Not a photo of said thing

No. She was dead. Pumping air into a corpse to force its lungs to inflate does not make it alive.

This is not just an issue of choice, gestating a baby in a lifeless, rotting body is an ethical issue for society as a whole. And I maintain, it is fucking unhinged.

Thank you. Everything you said is spot on.

@Soubriquet "At one point she was literally rotting ..." Er, what? As much as I abhor the reversal of Roe v Wade and Georgia State Law allowing this poor woman to kept on life-support for four months until the foetus was deemed viable, it's that very life support that would have kept her heart pumping and blood moving around her body to enable incubation of her baby. Where do you get the idea that "she was literally rotting"?

Ok well I hope it turns out alright. But if the woman's next of kin don't want to keep her on artificial life support then it shouldn't be the choice of the state to do this.

@MrsTerryPratchett, @FlangelinaJolie, @Digdongdoo- my apologies, you are absolutely right; I didn't understand what life-support machines did as well as I thought I did.

This may sound odd, but somehow the references to rotting, corpses etc just seem to be disrespectful to the woman herself, even though it's clearly not her fault she was in this situation.

No it isn’t spot on.

She was not in a coma.

She was declared brain dead in February and her body has been breaking down since.

Brain dead individuals decompose on a ventilator. That is a fact

Given all the reporting and availability of information now, I cant imagine the trauma having to grow up and finding out this about the circumstances of your birth.