Baby of brain dead woman finally delivered weighing less than 2 pounds

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It’s evil what was done to that poor woman. At one point she was literally rotting just so she could incubate the fetus that little bit longer. He’s finally been born, and he’s so small. They are confident he will make it, but I think they HAVE to say that to justify what they did.

Least she can rest in peace now

I assumed it was in the interview, but having watched it, it's not. I'll keep digging.

This article contains the link to the TV interview she gave. It's harrowing. Not so much because of Adriana being kept alive (it's not mentioned much), but the way she shouldn't have died in the first place and how she was failed. Her poor broken mother is trying to hold a lot together. Poor woman.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jwl9l9yneo.amp

"Smith's young son reportedly thinks his mother is just sleeping" :( :(

The whole situation is sad. It shouldn't have come to it.

The fact that the mum wasn't taken seriously when she went to the hospital with extreme headaches is maddening too. The mortality rate for black pregnant women in America is scary.

Today I'm just thankful I don't live in America. I'm also fucking furious that the whole world seems to be more and more like some sort of distopian nightmare everyday.

How anyone thinks it's going to be okay for a baby's development to be gestated in a brain dead body is beyond me.

We have no idea how that will affect their development. This is not like a parent in a coma.

The child isn't feeling any of mum's moods or bodily movements, isn't hearing mum's voice, isn't tasting their food.

They're being "fed" with manufactured chemical medicines in a body that can't even continue with basic bodily functions as the brain does those. 😢

It's horrifying. Obscene. That poor baby. 😔

The legalities around this case are questionable, to say the least. A pregnant woman allowed to die of natural causes would no way be an abortion of her foetus. It was bad enough that she was sent away with excruciating headaches without a scan of her head. Then this indignity. The whole thing is shocking.

Do you not think any mother would have wanted this, to give her child a chance of life, and bring comfort to her family.
Shame on all those condemning this in the name of their own half-baked so-called feminist principles.

The mum has a DNR in place which was ignored. Her own family said they did not want her kept on life support, which also was ignored. And they had to foot the bill for her care.

Her child is going to be severely damaged. All in the name of "pro-life".

I find this quite offensive. I am a mother and no, I would not choose such a start in life for my child. It’s one thing to “give a child a chance of life”, but what kind of life would that be, when brought into the world in such circumstances?

Actually they didn't say this.

They said they wanted to be able to make the decision. That it was theirs to make, not the doctors, and that it didn't necessarily mean they'd end the pregnancy either.

We don't know whether they would have chosen to continue the pregnancy. I'm not sure Adriana's poor mother knows which way she'd have gone in the end - I suspect her views would have changed week by week, and with each drs update.

She's not angry that her daughter was kept alive, from what I can see. She's angry that poor medical care killed her daughter. She's angry that it'll be her family that bear the brunt of any decision about Adriana's family but that she has no way. But she clearly loves and wants her new grandson and seems tortured by both the decision that needed to have been made, and watching her daughter lie in limbo for months.

Lemme guess, the people responsible for making this decision won't be contributing to this poor child's medical costs if he turns out to have disabilities and/or other medical problems as a result of everything that has already happened to him.

Any chance we'll find out how disabled this child will be? Or is all we can do speculate?

It is personal medical information so would only be disclosed if the family choose to, I believe.

Thanks. Whatever happens I hope the child doesn't have a life that is full of pain and misery

This is something to consider.

Imagine being a baby inside a dead mother. No mama’s voice singing to you, none of the sounds of life, no laughing, no music, no movement even unless she was being rolled or repositioned to ‘help’ pressure sores or to have a bed bath, no one to feel your kicks and prod back just the cold sounds of machinery. When that baby moved inside her, nothing responded to him. How lonely & horrible. Who would want that for their baby?

@FlangelinaJolie literally no one would want that for their foetus/ baby.

Many women on this thread would rather their foetus died with them, at this kind of gestation. A few would rather give their foetus a chance at developing into a baby and being born.

Probably almost all of us think there is some gestation at which being kept on life support for a couple of days or weeks would be ok with us.if it helped our baby be delivered healthy. We might all put that line in a slightly different place.

But absolutely never should a hospital take the decision to keep us alive as an incubator, for fear of the law and against our wishes.

When I was pregnant I had the most intensely emotional dreams. I would wake reeling from the strength of the emotions. My heart would be pounding, my mind racing.
I came to believe my body was priming the baby for emotions of their own.

Also, babies brain development comes from the mother. I’m sure I read our brain shrinks to form the baby’s brain. If the mum is brain dead, can that material still be useful to the baby?

And another concern- microchimerism, the way baby and mum swap genetic material throughout pregnancy. Was the mum able to provide that exchange for the baby? We don’t know yet what it does. I still have fragments of each of the boys I carried, apparently. They have fragments of me.

We still know so little. That poor wee baby.

I completely agree with you

But you wouldn't be being 'kept alive' your body would be rotting around your baby. Any poison created by your body would enter your blood stream and therefore in to your baby's blood stream.

I hope nothing but the best for baby Chance, I hope he is healthy and will survive.

Any poison created by your body would enter your blood stream and therefore in to your baby's blood stream.

The paper I linked to several pages back describes how, in 2019 in Czechia, doctors balanced drugs and nutrition to take a foetus from 16 weeks through to 32/33 weeks, before delivery from a brain dead woman.

I am not medical so skimmed a lot of the detail, but I assume the doctors in Georgia took similar protective measures.

I’m sure I read our brain shrinks to form the baby’s brain. If the mum is brain dead, can that material still be useful to the baby?

Fortunately, that isn't true. The baby's brain develops entirely independently, like all its other organs.

I think this idea that the baby was starved of oxygen at 9 weeks is wring - oxygenation via placenta doesnt take over until 12 weeks and short term oxygen needs of a 9 week foetus are low. Even if that werent the case, i havent seen any suggestion that she had a cardiorespiratory arrest - it was brain circulatory failure due to blood clots in the brain

As a mother, absolutely not. I would have wanted the tiny foetus to die with me and not be incubated in my corpse.

Absolutely not, and you dont get to speak for any other woman or mother then yourself.

Shame on you for condemning others based on some fucked up idea you have

No, I don't. No-one wants their baby to die, but I doubt whether, given the choice, they would easily opt in favour of incubating a 9 week old foetus in their decomposing body, kept going by drugs the effects of which on the foetus we just don't know, being born very premature and having to be kept alive then in an incubator; with strong risks that the baby would be born disabled or would develop disabilities, and complete uncertainty about who would look after the baby, who would pay for its health care needs, who if anyone would love it. Especially when they have signed a DNR and the only reason this is happening is because some doctors are erroneously scared of being prosecuted.

I do too.