Baby of brain dead woman finally delivered weighing less than 2 pounds

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It’s evil what was done to that poor woman. At one point she was literally rotting just so she could incubate the fetus that little bit longer. He’s finally been born, and he’s so small. They are confident he will make it, but I think they HAVE to say that to justify what they did.

Least she can rest in peace now

Rights and wrongs aside, child seems to have a good chance of surviving, and is a perfectly normal weight for a baby of that gestation, which has usually about a 70 to 90% chance of survival.

Baby also has survived about 5 days so far, so their chances of survival are higher, as most who die will do so within the first few days.

This baby is likely to make it and I hope it does. It's death or survival shouldn't be used as points scoring either way. Ultimately it's a tiny baby fighting for its life, and on that basis, I wish it the best of luck

the baby is likely to have brain damage - the initial stroke she had I think I read the baby was without oxygen for some time.

His name is Chance and his grandmother says he's expected to be ok, and asks for prayers.

Ps: this doesn't mean I think the right decision was made, but now that baby is here, let's hope he's ok.

Human incubator she was forcefully kept as. Sick

The poor woman vessel. WTF is going on over the pond? And how long before it reaches here?

This.

Poor woman. Kept alive to be an incubator and against her families wishes.

Rest in peace poor woman. I hope she would be happy that little Chance is here, but at what cost?

There's no indication that it will reach the UK. We have and have always had quite a different stance on abortion.

It's very dystopian.

The poor child will have a massive burden growing up when they are old enough to understand how controversial their birth was.

Indeed. Though if such decisions could be made in advance, I would have wanted to be kept alive artificially until my baby had a fighting chance, to be honest.

The fact they did this without the families support. The poor woman had a DNR in place. It would have been one thing if she was 25+ weeks pregnant at the time but the fact she was only 9 weeks. Imagine the poor family having to watch their poor love one rot and then be dissected.

How the family also have to foot the medical bills for the last few months.

For a country that beats on about religion, why act like god?

Wow. Disgusting what they have done to that poor woman, but I hope the baby will be okay, now they are here.

There was a case like this in Ireland about 10 years ago, court ruled that life support could be withdrawn. The details were really difficult to read, she was in such a sad state as days progressed.

A baby born without a mother. Having been gestated by a dead mother. Kept alive by drugs and machines

and you think that baby will grow up to be just fine?

no one will even know the physical and neurological effects of those machines and drugs on this baby for their lifetime

and Certainly no one is thinking at all of the potential mental health challenges that will result.

It's been done lots of times. It's rare, but not unheard of by any means. There are three differences in this case:

1. normally it's not done quite so early until pregnancy - 2nd or 3rd trimester, not 1st. So not kept alive for as long.

2. it's normally done by agreement with family/NOK. So where the husband wants a chance for his wife's baby to survive etc.

3. it's normally presented as something they can do to save the baby, rather than are required to do due to abortion laws. Interestingly Georgia's governor had confirmed that they were not required to keep her alive. Understandably, in America, people are so afraid of falling foul of these restrictive laws that they interpret them even more tightly than was intended, making it even worse.

America is so nuts about things like withdrawing ventilation anyway, that thousands of comatose patients languish in 'vent farms' for years or decades, because their families can't bear to say no. I don't see keeping this lady alive for a specific purpose - to save her baby growing in her, for a limited time is worse than keeping someone alive for decades just because.

I think bodily autonomy and dignity in death needs to be overhauled in America in general, but much wider than this case.

This is a science experiment. We have absolutely no idea what the effects of being kept alive in its mothers corpse frankly, kept alive by machines and drugs and a plethora of artificial means, will do to him because until this happened it was just a fucked up idea that no one would actually do.

Unfortunately someone decided to use this women and her fetus as an unwilling science experiment.

I think women should be asked this during their booking in appointment, and then that stuck to wherever practical (or it may not be justifiable before a certain point under the NHS).

I'd have probably chosen to be kept alive for the second or third trimester, but only the first in my first pregnancy (as I'd have the welfare of my first to think about as well).

It's not an experiment. It's been done before. Just not quite this early. In the case of a woman kept alive for 14 weeks (the record - though does this beat it?), baby was fine. Follow up at a year showed baby was fine. Don't know about longer than that as they were discharged from further follow up.

Psychologically, who knows. But in that case the family were behind the decision, would read to 'bump' etc.

It feels ghoulishly like people don't want this baby to be ok, so it proves their point.

I think if it is near term then I suppose most women would probably want to be kept on life support until baby could be born. But at nine weeks that is wrong

Somewhat similar case in the Czech Republic - brain death of mother at 16 weeks, delivery at 35 weeks (117 days on life support).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8141338/

No one is wishing the death of a child, that goes without saying. He may survive, but he almost certainly will not thrive. And let’s NOT put aside the ‘rights and wrongs’ of this case, because they have caused him, his mother and his wider family a lot of suffering and distress.

Horrific. That poor woman should have been afforded some dignity in death. Women are more than incubators.

9 weeks? That’s absolutely insane.