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Greta’s flotilla

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TheSnugMoose · 09/06/2025 12:08

What are you thoughts on this? 13 people including Greta Thunberg were travelling to Palestine via boat with supplies. It’s been intercepted by Isreal and diverted.

Whatvare your thoughts? I’m guessing they will simply be deported, maybe with a severe telling off? The UN and the Palestinian foreign ministry have vocalised their support and asked for them to be allowed to continue their journey, however Isreal have said it was nothing more than a vanity exercise and they had very limited supplies on board to actually give aid.

What do you think will happen to the activists on board? Do you think they were right to go? Do you think they genuinely wanted to help or it was more about raising awareness?

I like Greta and I love that she has, so far, used her life to champion causes and she seems like a clever and funny woman. But I wonder if this trio was always doomed and what their long term plan was, especially if they had little aid onboard? But if that was their intention, maybe they just wanted to raise awareness of their feelings on the situation? Should anyone be trying to intervene like this or should it be left to proper channels?

I know feelings are high about this and I want to say I don’t support any of the awful things that have happened and recognise bad things on both sides. I don’t care for Israel’s terrible behaviour or Hamas’ awful doings, I do however care for the innocent people in the middle on both sides. This thread is just to get general thoughts on this…’mission’.

Just to add my thoughts: if this was a genuine aid mission then I respect them putting themselves potentially at risk (due to the boat trip) to care for others but also feel like it’s extremely naive and not actually the right thing to do, there has to be better ways to support?

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HeadDeskHeadDesk · 12/06/2025 16:40

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 10/06/2025 20:37

This is actually a common feature amongst all areas of genocide - the reflexive, defensive insistence amongst a small but significant cohort that what happened to them was special, worse and different than other genocides.

I've encountered this amongst scholars of any genocide you can name - the Holocaust, Armenia, Cambodia, Rwanda...

There is a behavioural psychology of a perpetrator nation, and equally one of a victim population.

Well if this is supposed to be a genocide then I must say, for a nation of people with so much money and so much power, they are making a bit of a long-winded hash of it.

Dangermoo · 12/06/2025 16:45

Gaslighting is the vehicle for the insidious antisemitism on this thread. I actually find that disturbing and I'm not Jewish. It's like being a bystander, where you know what's unfolding but are powerless to stop it. It's not just this thread; the pattern is always the same.

southerngirl10 · 12/06/2025 20:15

Suddenly the left want us to listen to a white woman unlike the thousands they ignored in Rotherham and Rochdale.

Dangermoo · 12/06/2025 20:20

southerngirl10 · 12/06/2025 20:15

Suddenly the left want us to listen to a white woman unlike the thousands they ignored in Rotherham and Rochdale.

What an excellent point.

BigALittleABouncingB · 12/06/2025 21:38

Roseandviolin · 11/06/2025 18:47

Puzzledandpissedoff and Dangermoo

What's your view on Nakba?

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Not that you asked, but my view is that the Nakba was a terrible decision by Arab leaders to tell their people to get out of the new Israel while they wiped it out. Didn't work out that way. Those that left became Palestinian refugees, those that stayed became Israeli citizens.

Meanwhile, I'm sure you're aware of the expulsion of Jews from Arab lands that happened at around the same time, around 100,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes with only the clothes on their backs, leaving homes and communities they had previously occupied for generations, millennia even, with no right of return to those countries.

What's your view on the Jewish exodus from the Muslim world?

RealDiscussionNotHate · 09/10/2025 08:27

"Turkish activist Ersin Çelik, who also participated in the flotilla, told the Anadolu news agency: “They dragged Greta by her hair in front of our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They made her crawl. They did everything imaginable to her as a warning to others because she was a public figure. In other words, they did exactly what the Nazis did.”"

No they didn't do 'exactly what the naxis did". Vastly incorrect comparison. Do any of these idiots, who state this type of comment, actually know what the Nazis did? It appears not. They are so dumb.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 09/10/2025 08:30

Roseandviolin · 11/06/2025 20:04

Yes, you are - because Arab people are also Semites. Why Israel made 'Semites' all about themselves? They should say anti-Jews or anti-Israel. It's literally like saying 'anti-Slavic' means anti-Serbians or anti-Bulgarians

Its actually not. Go research the meaning of the term antisemitism. It has a legal definition. There was a reason the word is used, might you guess why this word is used?

dairydebris · 09/10/2025 08:32

RealDiscussionNotHate · 09/10/2025 08:27

"Turkish activist Ersin Çelik, who also participated in the flotilla, told the Anadolu news agency: “They dragged Greta by her hair in front of our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They made her crawl. They did everything imaginable to her as a warning to others because she was a public figure. In other words, they did exactly what the Nazis did.”"

No they didn't do 'exactly what the naxis did". Vastly incorrect comparison. Do any of these idiots, who state this type of comment, actually know what the Nazis did? It appears not. They are so dumb.

I saw that too. Unbelievably ignorant and straight from the Hamas playbook.

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