Greta’s flotilla

[TheSnugMoose]

What are you thoughts on this? 13 people including Greta Thunberg were travelling to Palestine via boat with supplies. It’s been intercepted by Isreal and diverted.

Whatvare your thoughts? I’m guessing they will simply be deported, maybe with a severe telling off? The UN and the Palestinian foreign ministry have vocalised their support and asked for them to be allowed to continue their journey, however Isreal have said it was nothing more than a vanity exercise and they had very limited supplies on board to actually give aid.

What do you think will happen to the activists on board? Do you think they were right to go? Do you think they genuinely wanted to help or it was more about raising awareness?

I like Greta and I love that she has, so far, used her life to champion causes and she seems like a clever and funny woman. But I wonder if this trio was always doomed and what their long term plan was, especially if they had little aid onboard? But if that was their intention, maybe they just wanted to raise awareness of their feelings on the situation? Should anyone be trying to intervene like this or should it be left to proper channels?

I know feelings are high about this and I want to say I don’t support any of the awful things that have happened and recognise bad things on both sides. I don’t care for Israel’s terrible behaviour or Hamas’ awful doings, I do however care for the innocent people in the middle on both sides. This thread is just to get general thoughts on this…’mission’.

Just to add my thoughts: if this was a genuine aid mission then I respect them putting themselves potentially at risk (due to the boat trip) to care for others but also feel like it’s extremely naive and not actually the right thing to do, there has to be better ways to support?

You’re only going back to 1948? That’s incredibly selective. Do some reading. This conflict is complex and goes back centuries, if not millennia, before 1948.

Yeah, but Sudan isn't as fashionable and edgy.

Interesting that you don’t know much about it, isn’t it? (That’s not a dig, btw).

I obviously don’t know where you get your news from, but the fact that you and so many others know quite a bit about Gaza and not much at all about Sudan (also a completely horrific situation) tells us something very interesting about how and why information gets delivered to us, doesn’t it.

Right, so much to unpack here.

Conflicts and humanitarian crisis is not a fashionable trend to "follow"
There are many, many more people dying in Sudan
Why do you think you are so fixated on Gaza and ignoring death, suffering and starvation happening in other countries?

Quite.

For some reason the horror show in Sudan hasn’t been rolled into the Omnicause like Gaza has.

I mean, I say ‘for some reason’, but we know what the reason is really, don’t we.

Are you actually comparing the victims of October 7th to Nazis?

What a strange way to post about claiming to know what I want and that ‘I would prefer her to stay in her lane” when I never said that nor implied that at all. A claim without any basis or overly personal - not knowing me at all. I don’t need her to stay in her lane. But coming to the party exceptionally late and then trying to act like somehow it was her idea is indeed virtue signalling.

Or that we wouldn’t know what she has posted. It’s this new thing called social media and the internet Everyone has access to it and can see what people have posted, or written about etc.

And just to be super clear (since you maybe need that due to your presumptions based on nothing), this has nothing to do with what is going on in the conflict nor my feelings on it. This was a specific post on Greta.

What do you mean here? Are you referring to the victims?

They're not, it's triple distilled 150° proof bollocks. The Israelis are blocking the food and murdering people trying to get the scraps that do get through.

This is actually a common feature amongst all areas of genocide - the reflexive, defensive insistence amongst a small but significant cohort that what happened to them was special, worse and different than other genocides.

I've encountered this amongst scholars of any genocide you can name - the Holocaust, Armenia, Cambodia, Rwanda...

There is a behavioural psychology of a perpetrator nation, and equally one of a victim population.

As others have said, this just perfectly illustrates exactly so much of what’s been discussed here regarding selective activism in an age of virtue signalling, jumping on band wagons and getting your news from social media and the MSM.

No Jews. No news.

Masks coming off all over the place this evening.

Literally look at the news. It is widely known that the state of Israel is blocking food and aid into Gaza. When they are not starving them, they are obliterating them; men, women, children, babies. They are razing Gaza to the ground. They are killing humanitarian aid workers and burying them in shallow graves - there is now video evidence of this happening. All the while you have your eyelid squeezed shut.

Look up Francesca Albanese on Instagram. The information, the pictures, they are there for you to see.

Well done Greta for giving this the attention it so desperately needs.

Hamas are blocking aid because they don't care about the Palestinians. The more Palestinians that die, the worse Israel look, regardless as to whether it's actually Hamas at fault as the media don't think to question. Hamas like Palestinians dying. It serves their cause perfectly. And the way Palestinian children are brought up with guns from such a young age makes me wonder how much value is put on life or whether "martyrdom" - dying for the cause of wiping out Israel (check out the Hamas charter) - is worth more. It is extremely sad but Hamas are monsters - think ISIS - and they don't value Palestinians lives at all. Hence most are residing in Qatar these days.

THE STATE OF ISRAEL is blocking food to dying people, dying children, dying babies in Gaza. It is KNOWN. It is news. WE KNOW.

It is heinous that you would attempt to stop people feeling empathy for those people who are literally being subjected to genocide.

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/20/israel-still-blocking-aid-for-gaza-despite-promise-to-lift-siege-says-un

Israel plays the bigger role in blocking aid to Gaza, mainly because it controls most of the borders and imposes tight restrictions and inspections that slow down or prevent deliveries of food, fuel, and medical supplies. These measures are sometimes ‘justified’ on security grounds, especially to prevent weapons from reaching Hamas.
That said, Hamas has its own reasons for obstructing aid too. There have been reports of the group diverting or hoarding supplies, and in some cases, delaying or blocking distribution. Part of the strategy may be political — the worse the humanitarian situation looks, the more international pressure builds on Israel. So while Israel’s control over access is the main bottleneck, Hamas benefit from the crisis being prolonged, using it to shift blame and gain sympathy.

I’m not including links because, honestly, I’ve lost a lot of faith in reporting on this — even from outlets that claim to be neutral or unbiased. There’s so much selective framing, agenda-pushing, and conflicting narratives that it’s hard to trust any single source, from
either ‘side’. At this point, I’m just piecing things together from patterns, direct statements, and what seems consistent across the noise.

and If you follow GT on SM you would know she has indeed posted about Gaza and other conflicts too 🤷🏻‍♀️

well as Greta knows so much about Gaza she would have absolutely known that she would have been stopped by Isreali military and it was an utter waste of time and the symbolic much needed items could have been donated another way

This prank has been great for the Isreali government by shifting the focus for a few days

what an utter bunch of twats

Tell that to BBC

Its pure and simple publicity exercise to vilify Israel - I'm not saying they are angels (both sides do awful things to each other) but this is so blatantly agenda-led its shocking.

I never believed Gretha is doing what she paid to do until now.

BBC are worse than most.

100%. Stopped paying any attention to the BBC many years ago.

Genocide? The only ones committing genocide are Hamas towards Israel. It's literally in their charter. Did you see what they did on October 7th? The Palestinian population is actually growing if you look at the numbers.
And as for starvation, honestly I've never seen such overweight people who have no food.
Hamas are the ones blocking food. They have literally shot and maimed their own people this week for trying to raid their warehouses. More food went into Gaza before the latest blockade than they could have possibly eaten. Gazan restaurants on Instagram have plenty of food. Hamas is withholding it from it's people and blaming Israel because they know the world hates Jews. You are literally playing into their hands.