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StrikeDouble · 26/04/2025 14:16

Dustyblue · 26/04/2025 04:51

Her family released a statement saying she 'lost her life to suicide'.

I'd say that's pretty conclusive.

If there is something more sinister at play, the family are hardly likely to be told. The family may believe what they are told and then put that out to the public. It doesn’t mean it’s what actually happened.

Waterweight · 26/04/2025 14:38

StrikeDouble · 26/04/2025 14:16

If there is something more sinister at play, the family are hardly likely to be told. The family may believe what they are told and then put that out to the public. It doesn’t mean it’s what actually happened.

Oh here we go. A poor woman with a history of mental health struggles & intense media scrutiny over her last post on social media which was known lies Kills herself.

But instead of feeling bad for her, looking into ways to support mental health we start a conspiracy that somebody must have gone out of their way to kill her, cover it up & run away again.

StrikeDouble · 26/04/2025 14:46

Waterweight · 26/04/2025 14:38

Oh here we go. A poor woman with a history of mental health struggles & intense media scrutiny over her last post on social media which was known lies Kills herself.

But instead of feeling bad for her, looking into ways to support mental health we start a conspiracy that somebody must have gone out of their way to kill her, cover it up & run away again.

You realise it’s possible to feel complete sympathy for this woman who had been abused and also not believe that she has taken her own life.

Do you also believe Epstein died by suicide?

Crudd99 · 26/04/2025 14:57

Dustyblue · 26/04/2025 04:51

Her family released a statement saying she 'lost her life to suicide'.

I'd say that's pretty conclusive.

Suicide? Like Epstien? How convenient especially as they're trying to bring Andrew back to public life.

Overtheatlantic · 26/04/2025 16:42

It makes me think of poor Caroline Flack, hounded to death.

TheAutumnCrow · 26/04/2025 18:39

That shitty You Tube video I mentioned first thing this morning seems to have disappeared. Probably best, but it shouldn't have been up there in the first place a week or so ago.

Edited to make sense

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 26/04/2025 19:48

StrikeDouble · 26/04/2025 14:16

If there is something more sinister at play, the family are hardly likely to be told. The family may believe what they are told and then put that out to the public. It doesn’t mean it’s what actually happened.

But she died at home. Where is anything sinister ?

Dustyblue · 27/04/2025 01:43

Epstein was in custody when he died and almost certainly had a trove of hard evidence against multiple powerful people. He had no known history of mental distress.

Not true of Virginia. The two are chalk & cheese.

But sure, maybe MI5 were wandering around rural western Australia looking for their chance to off someone who was effectively zero threat to PA, when he's been largely retired by the royal family anyway. Makes so much sense.

HellDorado · 27/04/2025 04:49

Exactly. What has happened to Virginia Giuffre is tragic. But is it unexpected? Not at all. The suggestion that it is “convenient” for Prince Andrew and/or the wider Royal Family doesn’t make sense either. Why now? Why not before the damage was done? If anything, her death has ensured the story is making headlines again and being reanalysed.

LBFseBrom · 27/04/2025 07:19

I agree with you, HellDorado, and the very title of this thread is in DM style, designed to engender outrage.

It's a terrible tragedy of course but don't the media love it.

Needspaceforlego · 27/04/2025 08:19

Overtheatlantic · 26/04/2025 16:42

It makes me think of poor Caroline Flack, hounded to death.

How did the media hound her to death, makes no sense.The media pretty much left her alone other than reporting the 'accident' last week.

She was estranged from her husband and kids. And was due in court fairly soon.
The bus driver doesn't think she was in the car. A Toyota highlander is not a small car.

It's almost like she's self harmed, and published the 4 days to live in a very sad desperate attempt to get the family to visit.

Then with them not falling for it she's taken her own life.

God love her kids because they must be feeling pretty dreadful. And will always question would it have been different if they weren't estranged.
But then things must have been pretty awful for them to have been estranged in the first place

marcopront · 27/04/2025 11:00

LBFseBrom · 27/04/2025 07:19

I agree with you, HellDorado, and the very title of this thread is in DM style, designed to engender outrage.

It's a terrible tragedy of course but don't the media love it.

What is wrong with the thread title?

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 11:34

Dustyblue · 27/04/2025 01:43

Epstein was in custody when he died and almost certainly had a trove of hard evidence against multiple powerful people. He had no known history of mental distress.

Not true of Virginia. The two are chalk & cheese.

But sure, maybe MI5 were wandering around rural western Australia looking for their chance to off someone who was effectively zero threat to PA, when he's been largely retired by the royal family anyway. Makes so much sense.

Edited

It's not just PA she was a threat against and I doubt M15 Were wandering round Australia as well. The governments, rich and powerful hire very professional people to get jobs done without leaving a trace. It's like the Russians who all committed suicide by falling off buildings or the man who locked himself in a suitcase.
She spoke to the press and dared to sue one of the elite. There's been a smear campaign against her ever since. Any who would of spoken out have now been warned not to. Look at what happens to people who dare to speak out about anything smear campaigns to make people doubt them etc.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 11:35

HellDorado · 27/04/2025 04:49

Exactly. What has happened to Virginia Giuffre is tragic. But is it unexpected? Not at all. The suggestion that it is “convenient” for Prince Andrew and/or the wider Royal Family doesn’t make sense either. Why now? Why not before the damage was done? If anything, her death has ensured the story is making headlines again and being reanalysed.

To make an example to make sure others don't speak out or try to sue them.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 11:37

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 26/04/2025 19:48

But she died at home. Where is anything sinister ?

So no ones ever been killed at home and its been covered up or made to look like a suicide?

marcopront · 27/04/2025 11:55

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 11:35

To make an example to make sure others don't speak out or try to sue them.

Why now?

Why not years ago when she first made the accusation?
Or a few months ago when she claimed she had 4 days to live?

crumblingschools · 27/04/2025 12:03

So was the image of her in hospital also linked to this conspiracy theory, being estranged from her family, upcoming court case?

HellDorado · 27/04/2025 12:41

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 11:35

To make an example to make sure others don't speak out or try to sue them.

Wouldn’t it have been £12 million cheaper to have done it several years ago?

HoppingPavlova · 27/04/2025 12:55

To make an example to make sure others don't speak out or try to sue them

Utterly batshit. The only way that makes sense if she hadn’t recently had a family breakdown, associated upcoming court case and associated mental health breakdown when realising she may well have lost her kids forever. But, let’s ignore all of that, and go for a crazy conspiracy theory 🤦‍♀️.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 17:23

marcopront · 27/04/2025 11:55

Why now?

Why not years ago when she first made the accusation?
Or a few months ago when she claimed she had 4 days to live?

Perhaps because it was too obvious before then and would of been under more public scrutiny? Perhaps because there's someone who's about to speak out and they want them not to? Perhaps because they needed to have a smear campaign before the 'suicide '.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 17:29

HoppingPavlova · 27/04/2025 12:55

To make an example to make sure others don't speak out or try to sue them

Utterly batshit. The only way that makes sense if she hadn’t recently had a family breakdown, associated upcoming court case and associated mental health breakdown when realising she may well have lost her kids forever. But, let’s ignore all of that, and go for a crazy conspiracy theory 🤦‍♀️.

I equally think you're batshit for not seeing the obvious. She dared to speak out and challenge them and she was the victim (again) of a smear campaign and then she's dead. Do you truly believe things don't get covered up by those at the top , that there's no corruption or people don't get silenced? Look into past history Rotherham? She challenged them and won they weren't going to let her get away with it. And no one pays 12 million to someone they've never met.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 17:30

HellDorado · 27/04/2025 12:41

Wouldn’t it have been £12 million cheaper to have done it several years ago?

If she'd of died then it would of been obvious.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 27/04/2025 17:31

StrikeDouble · 26/04/2025 14:46

You realise it’s possible to feel complete sympathy for this woman who had been abused and also not believe that she has taken her own life.

Do you also believe Epstein died by suicide?

Oh wise up!! I suppose you also believe that it wasn't really the Pope they buried and Covid wasn't real?!!

Her hospital posts were about the difficulties she had been going through this year so I think it's most likely that those are what were mostly occupying her headspace.

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 17:33

marcopront · 27/04/2025 11:55

Why now?

Why not years ago when she first made the accusation?
Or a few months ago when she claimed she had 4 days to live?

Or was she afraid and thought they were after with the accident so went public because she thought that would help her keep safe? Was she away from her children to keep them safe? They silenced her as a warning to others .

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 27/04/2025 17:34

Crudd99 · 27/04/2025 17:29

I equally think you're batshit for not seeing the obvious. She dared to speak out and challenge them and she was the victim (again) of a smear campaign and then she's dead. Do you truly believe things don't get covered up by those at the top , that there's no corruption or people don't get silenced? Look into past history Rotherham? She challenged them and won they weren't going to let her get away with it. And no one pays 12 million to someone they've never met.

God what utter shite you are posting.

CT I take it? Talk about batshit.