Tesla cars: are you getting rid of yours?

[CrazyOldMe]

Disclaimer: I can't afford a Tesla anyway!

However, I do know of several very decent people who own Tesla cars. They paid a lot for them and know that they can only sell them at a loss. It doesn't seem fair really.

If you have one, what are your future plans with it?

On that note, what will happen to the cars next do you think? Will the company go bust?

But it’s irrelevant not hypocritical.

People are boycotting Tesla because a) they want to vote with their wallet and not financially reward Elon Musk
b) they don’t want to be associated with a brand which is now toxic.

Neither of those things apply to brands which associated themselves with regimes where every single aspect of that is long gone.

Companies would never change their behaviour if they thought they would be punished forever
more regardless.

I buy sugar depsite sugar those companies being originally built on the slave trade. That’s not supporting or condoning modern slavery.

You just roll out German companies from 100 years ago to convince yourself this is beyond your control.

’not making ethical decisions’ is still a decision based on your ethics.

Currently, no affiliations.

So you're telling me you'd boycott Tesla because of Musk's views and apparent alignment to the far right, but would be happy to use goods/services of companies who were complicit in the use of concentration camp workers and their inhumane treatment?

Me, personally that doesn't sit right and feels hypocritical.
Maybe that's because my personality is very all or nothing.

Additionally, anyone wanting to be serious about this, really should deep dive into it. Musk has money and partnerships tied up in alot of companies who provide goods/services to multiple other companies on the market.
Example, Tesla is partnered with Contemporay Amperex Technology Co Limited (CATL). CATL are the largest EV and energy battery production company in the world and specialise in Litium-ion batteries for EVs.

Chances are if you own an EV, you have helped Musk financially because of the technology and parts in them.

If I had one I would keep it but I wouldn't buy one now, while appreciating that the decision not to isn't entirely logical- however, decisions to buy most consumer products aren't. Brands have certain associations and we buy those associations/ aspirations when we buy the item. It's like I used to buy a lot from Amazon but I'm so pissed off with JB over the WP thing that I'm buying a lot less, as every time I go on the Amazon app I feel pissed off so it's not a good retail experience, but I'm not actively boycotting them.

I don't own a Tesla & definitely wouldn't buy one now as the brand doesn't align with my values. I don't have an EV and am not sure what I have from those brands you list, my car is a Volvo. But regardless those brands have historical and not current connotations. That's the point!

Me, personally that doesn't sit right and feels hypocritical.

It's not hypocrisy because it's not the same. Do you believe Germany should be still be punished @BigDecisionWorthIt?

Yes, because none of the people responsible for those decisions are still alive. Noone is profiting from Nazi Germany. Noone is approving of concentration camps by buying a Golf.

This article is probably more relevant.

I think we all grew up wondering what we would have done in 30s Germany.

What we are doing now is what we would have done then https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/

@loadalaundry

No I don't think Germany should still be punished. I wouldn't stop buying any from the examples I provided. Same as I wouldn't stop buying items from companies solely due to their links/partnership with Musk.

Again. The two things aren’t connected.

Buying from German companies in 2025 has absolutely no relevance and cannot change 1935.

Buying from Tesla/Musk in 2025 has a direct impact on 2025.

No I absolutely love my Tesla. We were planning on getting another as it has the longest range and we drive a lot but not sure if we can really now

Worded that wrong. We won't be

@outofofficeagain honestly save your breath, you can't argue with stupid 😆

I suppose you're right, it isn't necessarily a collective billionaire thing, but certainly there are a few notables currently who have aligned themselves with trump and so to my mind are supporting his fascist, naziesque, bullying, narcissistic, illegal, politics. Bezos and Zuckerberg in particular.

Well there is a significant amount of people who weren't around then or didnt know about their links with nazis and we are watching this in real time ...plus there was no social media back in the mid 40s.

The actions of trump and musk have the strong stench of naziism about them, so I'm choosing to do my little bit . It might amount to nothing or collectively it might amount to something. Do we just sit back do nothing and let them do whatever they want without doing something to suggest we don't agree with it?

Those boycotting because of the Musk/Nazi issue makes me laugh. There are lots of mainstream companies who played an integral part of the Nazi regime in Germany and built the foundations of their business during the reign and were complicit in more severe human suffering than Musk has.

Do you know what a boycott is @BigDecisionWorthIt? What it is used for?

My DH didn’t throw his Tesla away - he traded it in for his new-to-him electric car.
I use OnBuy instead of Amazon. Was based in Bournemouth but now their office is in London. Unfortunately, the last thing I bought was fulfilled by Amazon so was a bit put out by that. I will look a bit more closely at the supplier before I buy.
I’m Canadian but live in the UK and I’m really trying not to buy American. #elbowsup

Bored and envious Fiesta owners seething into the void, virtue signalling and swallowing everything the dying legacy media tell them and they lap it up. Sad.

Enjoy your crappy cars people, you can't afford a Tesla anyway so what's the fucking problem.

Well you’re a delight.

I am bemused by people who call everything virtue signalling or woke or whatever because they want to do what they want to do and fuck everyone else.

If a paedophile who abused a family member was the local car salesman would you hop on down there to get your next car ? Would you feel supported by the people who didn't use him ? Would you like it if a friend continued to use them ?

Well Musk is a Nazi and Trump is a sexual abuser....this isnt about 'virtue signalling' this is about not accepting what they want you to believe is acceptable and the norm.

Does he even care? Tesla is only a portion of his income / financial holdings. I don't see people boycotting PayPal.

( I know PayPal is less visible. I'm just not sure that a total collapse of Tesla would really hurt him)

If they don't care why did Trump create a TESLA showroom on his own property to boost sales again?

Thanks for the Onbuy intel 👍

You have the perfect username.

You have to start somewhere.

Whataboutery is pointless.

You do need to start somewhere, and I'm certainly not buying a new Tesla, because that would fund these crazy politics.

On the other hand, I'm not going to sell my current one, because doing that changes nothing.

And it's not whataboutery, it's more "does Musk even really care? What is it that will make an impact?".

Washington post is not an extreme right wing publication but it’s now owned by Jeff Bezos who is now laying down his law on what can be reported and how. Journalists are resigning because it’s no longer remotely an impartial news source. It’s lost thousands of subscribers.

(Bezos sat in the row behind Trump at Trump’s inauguration.)

I’m going off topic here really, but given that Trump is stripping away benefits from the VA and many veterans are being very vocal in their criticism of Trump’s moves, added to the disrespect Trump shows for military personnel - according to Trump prisoners of war are ‘losers’ etc., and Trump’s attitude to Trans people, I’m left wondering exactly who is going to enlist in the armed forces? There is already a US military recruitment crisis that’s been a crisis for years.