Tesla cars: are you getting rid of yours?

[CrazyOldMe]

Disclaimer: I can't afford a Tesla anyway!

However, I do know of several very decent people who own Tesla cars. They paid a lot for them and know that they can only sell them at a loss. It doesn't seem fair really.

If you have one, what are your future plans with it?

On that note, what will happen to the cars next do you think? Will the company go bust?

indeed, had mine for over 5 years and has been totally reliable. main issue was autopark, but I just don't use it

EVs are about 100 times less likely to catch fire than an ICE.

But yes, this is about politics, both tech.

Perhaps, but I no longer believe anything I read in the press about any EV. Murdoch media had a thing against EVs in general, and writes absolute nonsense.

Nestle is a problematic company that many people boycott for many reasons. Here is some background info.

www.ethicalconsumer.org/food-drink/continuing-controversies-nestle

Yeah if you look at the sale history and profit made at Tesla there is absolutely no correlation with the Share Price.

Enron vibes.

Thanks @watchseehear , I did know about Nestlé; I was responding to the question about Switzerland itself.

I’m aware
They’ve been doing it for decades
It started with them handing out free formula in Africa etc and waiting a while for mums milk to dry up then they started charging for it to people with no money to buy
That and having to mix it with contaminated water causes many deaths.
I breast fed but would never buy any Nestle baby formula (or anything by Nestle ) even if I had to.

I noticed when mine were little the nhs gave SMA out for free in both hospitals and health centres.

Same

To all the 'don't care, I'll buy what I want' I actually think it's a real shame that people don't make more ethical decisions when buying stuff/investing. The world would be a lot better place if people did. And I know my shopping is far from perfect but at least I do try and make ethical choices with my money as this is actually the greatest power I have, money talks. I avoid buying loads of stuff, I figure doing something is better than not caring what my money is supporting.

Buying the Tesla was an ethical decision, because it's the only EV that had sufficient range to be usable for my work at the time I bought it and I wanted to stop using ICE cars.

There's more choice now, sure, but I'm not buying now. I was buying then.

They are good cars so people will continue to buy them.

If you want to get rid s/h I'm sure there will be a willing line up of buyers.

I know it was, I don't disagree at all. And for some going forward will be buying the BECAUSE of their link to Trump and Musk and that is entirely their choice and their values. Many more will buy them and anything else they want because they don't care where stuff comes from and who is benefiting or suffering because of it.

Wouldn't buy a Tesla or any EV for that matter.

But the whole Tesla thing right now is no more than hypocritical woke virtue signalling.

Those boycotting because of the Musk/Nazi issue makes me laugh.
There are lots of mainstream companies who played an integral part of the Nazi regime in Germany and built the foundations of their business during the reign and were complicit in more severe human suffering than Musk has.

I wonder if they are also boycott stuff from:
. AEG
. Allianz
. Audi
. BMW
. Bayer (medicine)
. Chanel
. Esso
. Dr Oetker
. Ford
. Hugo Boss
. IBM
. Maggi
. Mercedes
. Shell
. Siemens
. VW

Just to name some mainstream ones. I can guarantee most still use these companies without a second thought. Just goes to show that many people need a reality check and history lessons.

@BigDecisionWorthIt so time makes no difference? How long do we wait to forgive Germany?

Just goes to show that many people need a reality check and history lessons.

That's just it though, it's history as opposed to current day. Or are those brands still aligned with right wing views?

You do know how time works don’t you.

I also think slavery is wrong but I think there is a difference in someone partaking today vs the fact England was built on slavery.

If the car has already been purchased and is on the road, Tesla has already made the money in it.
Selling it on isnt going to affect anything.

This protest is about as well thought out as the idiots who think they've damaged JKR by burning a Harry Potter book.
I think her response was Ive already got the money so by all means borrow my lighter.

Do you never make any ethical considerations buying anything then? As I've said up thread, ethical, for some, might be buying Tesla precisely because of links to Trump/Musk/far right.

And in today's edition of I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c201z4lv5xxo

I don't think it's really about political leanings. I would not care about the political leanings of the CEO of the manufacturer of my car. It's more about EM having become quite a hated figure and doing some quite extreme things - far more than political leanings or just belonging to one party or the other.

I only know one person with a Tesla and he loves the car. I doubt he will be getting rid. He got it for eco reasons and is vegetarian. I have to say that I think I would feel a bit less comfortable driving one these days though. Luckily it was well out of my car budget!

What are AEG and Allianz's current affiliations with Nazis, for example?

This protest is about as well thought out as the idiots who think they've damaged JKR by burning a Harry Potter book. I think her response was Ive already got the money so by all means borrow my lighter.

I don't understand this analogy? did her book sales plummet? She has also got her money but that's not the same as Elon, much of his "money" is based on the value of Tesla & how he uses it as leverage hence why it matters.

To caveat, I myself have no problems either any of the brands/companies I mentioned.

My point is solely the hypocritical basis of it all. All companies listed have been complicit in a lot worse than Musk.
So really if someone wants to be taken seriously with this "protest", the rest should be boycotted too.

It's on the same lines of laughability as the just stop oil loons chucking paint everywhere not realising that using paint like that as a form of "protest" is supporting the oil industry.

To answer another, do I make ethical decisions? Not really. I'll choose what I buy for what suits me/my family.
Only way to truly be ethical is by sourcing and making everything yourself. I don't have time.... or anywhere near enough skill/talent for that.

It's not hypocritical though because or can you link to the below?

What are AEG and Allianz's current affiliations with Nazis, for example?