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What do to? Operation and no childcare...

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daisydaisyrose · 24/02/2025 19:15

Not sure if there is any solution to this, I need an operation and currently have just been told I am booked in for it in just over a week (very short notice, must have been a cancellation, I was told to expect three to six months at least!)

It will require two nights minimum in hospital and a six-eight week recovery with no driving for at least six weeks... I have zero childcare for dd7. Lone parent with old and incapable mother who would rather walk barefoot across hot coals than help me, all friends etc have their own children/work etc so can't really help either.

Any suggestions? I am going to have to call and say I can't have it, aren't I?

OP posts:
katepilar · 24/02/2025 20:35

Assuming you arent able to pay for a nanny?

JANEY205 · 24/02/2025 20:36

Postpone and find a childminder for the recovery time. I’ve had to do this for an upcoming surgery as in same position as you OP. Make sure a friend is available to collect you on discharge as you will need an adult with you.

Channellingsophistication · 24/02/2025 20:37

Would definitely ask your friends - I would do it if you were my friend. After all you are needing an operation which is important. Your friends might just assume you don’t need help. I once went to my friends house in the middle of the night as her dad was rushed to hospital suddenly and looked after her DCs.

Otherwise, I would hire a nanny for a couple of days who could hopefully look after the dog as well.

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Eldermilleniallyogii · 24/02/2025 20:37

daisydaisyrose · 24/02/2025 19:56

No, we aren't isolated! I just hate asking for help, it really upsets me to be so bloody alone when it comes to shit like this. She's not done sleepovers yet... I could ask on the class WhatsApp chat, but again, it's a big ask. Plus as a lone parent, I find friends are quick to say 'just ask!' And if I do ask as I am desperate, there are all manner of excuses as to why they can't help.

I really can't imagine her going into foster care, even just for a few nights 😢

What do you propose to do then if you don't want to ask anyone you know?

itscomplicatedagain · 24/02/2025 20:37

I'm a single parent to 3 children and over the years I've had help from a variety of people as I've had to have surgery a few times and many short hospital stays.

I advertised on Next Door and found some lovely and reliable students who were able to help out with taking kids to school, pick ups etc.

My neighbours were also happy to do one pick up a week.

Other parents helped too. I set up a what's app group of acquaintances and friends that I hoped would be helpful and asked for help on specific dates and people did help.

At one point I also had a lodger who was keen to help for a lower rent. She was a friend of a friend and was a great source of help.

On my street what's app group people helped me with bringing food around once word got around . ( I unknowingly had a religious community living close by who brought us meals although I'm not part of that religion) and it was nice to feel supported during a very difficult time.
It's hard to reach out but please do. People really do want to help.

Britneyfan · 24/02/2025 20:37

Hi OP I’m a GP and a single mother and I had to have an operation last year so I do totally understand (fortunately for me my parents who live in another part of the U.K. were able and willing to help, also my child is a teen now so not quite the same situation - still wouldn’t want to leave them overnight alone but much less of an ask at this age for a sleepover at a friend’s in a pinch etc.).

I particularly understand when you say that everyone always says to just ask if you need something but then when you actually do need something and pluck up all your courage to ask, people say no. Unfortunately I think many people just do not stop to think for a moment to put themselves in someone else’s shoes and don’t always understand that you wouldn’t be asking at all if you weren’t desperate, it’s not a casual request. Another single parent is actually most likely to be sympathetic and willing to help when you need it I have found. I did once offer to look after a fairly new school gate acquaintance’s child while she was in hospital having her second baby, as she was also a single mother who had fallen out with her mum last minute and had nobody else to ask, I had a lot on my plate then myself but couldn’t say no to helping someone in that situation for a night or two.

A week IS very short notice for an op and many people would struggle to make this work for many reasons. Did you tell them you were a single parent and would need a bit of notice to pull childcare together (never mind the dog which definitely complicates things too).

I think firstly you need to decide how urgent it is (could be just a cancellation appt being offered to you as you say if not clinically urgent), and whether you think it would be a total disaster to have to wait the potential 6 months originally quoted to have it done. If it’s a cancer operation I would move heaven and earth to make it work and jump at the chance to get in there ASAP. If it’s anti-reflux surgery, then it can wait safely enough till you’ve had more time to think it all through and come up with a plan ahead of time.

If it is urgent please do ask people and make sure you explain how urgent and important the surgery is. Ask your friends first if no family locally (at age 7 I think it’s no big deal if they go in to school an hour late or something for a couple of days over this sort of thing to allow for multiple kids drop offs etc), then after that ask parents of your child’s closest friends then I would ask on class WhatsApp groups, speak to school etc. I do think you need to decide ASAP if you can have this surgery or not and let them know either way within 24-48h if possible so that the slot does not get wasted and can be offered to someone else waiting if needed. Don’t dither til the last minute. Be brave and ask for help! And if everyone says no but the surgery is urgent then do contact social services, I know locally they would sometimes step in in these circumstances.

If it’s not urgent it’s totally ok to cancel if you want, especially at this stage as you’ve only just been informed of the date (though never use the word cancel when it comes to NHs appts! Say postpone or reschedule instead otherwise you run the risk of some admin person saying “the patient decided they didn’t want the surgery anymore and cancelled” and taking you off the surgery list. Which is more work for your GP as you need referred and puts you to the back of the queue again). People sometimes feel they can’t say it doesn’t suit with NHS appts, but the admin people will always just offer you the next appt on the list when it’s your turn if you don’t tell them it’s potentially a problem, if the truth is there is no real rush for this surgery and you’re likely to have it done within the year regardless then I would personally be tempted to call and tell them you simply can’t pull together the childcare in time as a single parent, and make sure they make a note that you need a decent notice period next time for this reason. But then ultimately you still have to ask people for the future and it’s better done sooner rather than later. Presumably you could put the dog in kennels for a few nights ok.

Eldermilleniallyogii · 24/02/2025 20:37

There must be another dog walker in the area?

hmmyeahidontthinkso · 24/02/2025 20:37

Do you not have a single friend with a child at the same school who could take her for a few days?

Ask in your street WhatsApp for a temporary nanny/babysitter?

Sibling who could help?

Daughter's father not in the picture at all?

Fair enough if you've exhausted all these possibilities but you just need to step up and ask - it isn't a sign of weakness!

Ophy83 · 24/02/2025 20:38

I helped out a school mum in a similar position last year - her 2 are the same age as my 2 so they stayed with us for a few days. It was no trouble. If anything it was a really easy week for us as the kids entertained each other. Definitely ask around your dd's friend's mums, I'm sure one of them would help you

thequeenoftarts · 24/02/2025 20:38

Stick dog in a kennels for a week, it will be fine. Ask in school are there any trainee teachers that would like bed, board and cash in hand for a week or two to move in and take your child to school and care for them after school and at weekends, just for 2 weeks. I understand the not asking if no one has offered, I am a lot like that too, but I also the first to offer if anyone needs help

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/02/2025 20:40

Just ask your friends. It's not as big of a deal having an extra as you may think, depending on the household. Even if your daughter stays with them by day and misses school, it will be fine. Perhaps the teacher can give her something to do or read.

How "elderly" are your neighbours? If they are kindly, even a person in their 70s could house a child overnight and get them off to school. Grandparents do it all the time.

I'm not religious but if you have churches nearby, they may have some sort of support or know of someone reputable who can be hired.

What about your co-workers? Do any of them have a uni student or mother or someone who could step in?

Fairyflaps · 24/02/2025 20:40

My parents did emergency term foster care. This would often be because the mother had been admitted to hospital. The child/ children would come and stay with us from a few days to a few weeks. They would have a taxi to take them to school.

JLou08 · 24/02/2025 20:42

If you were my friend I would take Annual Leave if necessary or just explain to work and school that I may be late and your DD may be late due to the situation. Your friends are probably assuming you have someone else, just ask them. If they say no they say no, you won't lose anything by asking.

hyggetyggedotorg · 24/02/2025 20:44

Apologies if you’ve answered this (I have FTFT but can miss things), where’s dad? Even if he isn’t involved is there no grandparent, auntie or uncle to help?

When my DS2 (now 24) was little a classmates mum actually died because she didn’t seek medical help because she’d convinced herself she had lung cancer & her DD would be taken into care if she was diagnosed. She didn’t have lung cancer. She had pneumonia. Her 9 year old DD found her dead in bed.

Within 2 hours of the little girl finding her mum’s body (she lived in a flat opposite school & ran straight into school to get help) a paternal auntie had arrived at school & taken the little girl back to her house. She lived with her until adulthood.

Beachcomber74 · 24/02/2025 20:45

Put a call out on local Facebook page. A sixth former would welcome the money, a carer or local babysitter, child minder etc. You’d need references but put it out there.

mitogoshigg · 24/02/2025 20:45

Could you afford a "holiday nanny" for three days? I know people who've paid for childcare this way

rainbowsparkle28 · 24/02/2025 20:46

daisydaisyrose · 24/02/2025 19:56

No, we aren't isolated! I just hate asking for help, it really upsets me to be so bloody alone when it comes to shit like this. She's not done sleepovers yet... I could ask on the class WhatsApp chat, but again, it's a big ask. Plus as a lone parent, I find friends are quick to say 'just ask!' And if I do ask as I am desperate, there are all manner of excuses as to why they can't help.

I really can't imagine her going into foster care, even just for a few nights 😢

This is one of those you are just going to have to put on your big girl pants and stop being stubborn and ask - generally speaking people will try and do what they can if they can, but they can’t if they don’t know! ASK! 🫵

ooooohnoooooo · 24/02/2025 20:47

I ended up looking after the kids of a woman I'd met only once when she had a medical emergency. Had both of her kids, one SEN. It was fine. We coped, as did the kids. Just ask. People will often help. We ended up being good friends after that Smile
Otherwise SS may be able to arrange foster care?

nadine90 · 24/02/2025 20:48

I’d say it’s definitely worth asking your friends, and perhaps organising temporary breakfast and afterschool club if your school offers it so a friend could do both school runs. It’s hard asking for help, but I would help any friend in this situation in a heartbeat and would be sad if any of mine didn’t feel they could ask x

KenIsAnAccessory · 24/02/2025 20:48

If you asked on one of our class WhatsApp groups, I'd do it 100%. There are people out there who will. I know it's a big deal to ask but honestly I wouldn't think twice for someone who needs a bit of help, especially if our DC were friends.

intrepidgiraffe · 24/02/2025 20:49

The benefit of foster care vs someone you don't really know, is that they will have been heavily vetted, trained and will be experienced caring for children in situations like this.

ADifferentSong · 24/02/2025 20:49

Your child’s Head Teacher would want to know regardless and may in fact have some suggestions.

Drfosters · 24/02/2025 20:53

daisydaisyrose · 24/02/2025 19:56

No, we aren't isolated! I just hate asking for help, it really upsets me to be so bloody alone when it comes to shit like this. She's not done sleepovers yet... I could ask on the class WhatsApp chat, but again, it's a big ask. Plus as a lone parent, I find friends are quick to say 'just ask!' And if I do ask as I am desperate, there are all manner of excuses as to why they can't help.

I really can't imagine her going into foster care, even just for a few nights 😢

I promise You will find it is not a big ask at all if you ask the parents of a close friend of you child. I bet they will help without question- it takes a village to raise a child. I know I would . And as it happens a while ago I did have an emergency and I called some parents of children’s friends and they took them without question for the night and the next day. Kids enjoyed staying with their mates. They will probably take the dog as well if no conflicting pets.

start with close mates rather than ask the whole class. Your child will be much more comfortable staying with a close friend.

Longsleepneeded · 24/02/2025 20:54

Last year a friend was having a particularly difficult couple of weeks with her cancer treatment and there was no wrap around care at school as sickness was so high. She put a message on the class WhatsApp and between four of us we got her children to school and picked them up every day for a week, covering the early starts and keeping them till her husband finished work. We were all so pleased to be able to do something practical to help the family. The school were aware of her situation and were very supportive, so make them aware as well.
I think you need to swallow your pride and ask friends. It's difficult, but so many people want to help, it doesn't need to be one person doing it all for you. Good luck .

harijes · 24/02/2025 20:54

It's hard, I get that. But time to extend that friendship.

Ask HT at school who her close friends are and who would be a good suggestion to ask, if you don't have those in your circle.

Ask your friends, you are going for an operation not a holiday to Ibiza

Yes, yes we are all very busy but I would be HORRIFIED if you were my friend and assumed I wouldn't help.

If that really was the case, HT could them suggest parents who have children yours is close with.