Continuation of AR housing thread

[TheNuthatch]

Continuation of the Angela from housing thread. For those who want to moan about the government and share thoughts and articles.

Trump V Zelenskyy! WTF is going on!

Madness.

It looks like no deal, and no press conference. Zelenskyy's about to leave. I'm lost for words.

Just watched the White House

I have no words. Scary though what next

Why was this mess even televised?

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat I'm amazed it was..
You have trump who is trump and zelensky, pushed to the limit, angry, upset and wanting to hit putin where it hurts and it's clear that won't be said or won't happen openly in this white house.

Starmer was primed and did extraordinary well to handle him I bet pyscologists on hand to assist and all sorts. He held his nose and played trumps game.

This is a gift to Putin, to Iran and to China.

Unbelievable.

'Scary though. What next'

Exactly!

I'm worried US will just stop providing.

Then what for Ukraine? It's awful to see

Just caught up, that was really worrying. Apparently one of the American news agencies is saying Trump kicked out Zelensky, rather than Zelensky leaving.

I think there's a good chance that America might stop funding the Ukraine, don't you? It was too much of a spectacle with no diplomatic grace for that to be an accident. Is it to provide the rationale to the Americans to pull out?

Just read Zelensky’s Twitter statement.

its either very sarcastic or he’s trying to salvage something.

I thought that also, the thank yous, I don't think sarcastic.
However I also don't think it will look good if putin does more in Ukraine and the USA does nothing.
Unfortunately Trump is trump and you have to play him.. In a strange way I think this may be a good thing zelensky holding out I guess it depends on many things, does Trump really want rare earth? Apparently there isn't even much there?

It's such an awful situation but unfortunately stuck between two bullies one has to find a path through esp if one bully is helping you fight the other one who wants to steal your home?

500 billion deal that gives us an interest worth defending..
Some guy outside the Whitehouse.

That's the key line... Something worth defending...

It's awful to watch.

Could that have been orchestrated deliberately to make Zelenskyy look bad to the american people? Gives the US a reason to stop funding immediately?
Will Europe decide that they would rather see VZ resign than stepping up financially and militarily?

Zelensky let them make him play their game. He should not have done because he can't beat them at it.

What did he say? I don't use X/twitter and can't find the post online.

No.

They wouldn't need this charade to stop funding. This was something else.

I don't think his post is sarcastic. I really feel for him

So hard

Maybe it can be salvaged idk. It's really concerning to think about it not

@TheNuthatch I'm not on there but can see this

Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you
@POTUS
, Congress, and the American people.
Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that.

Skynews had it. I'm not on Twitter either.

No, I didn't think it was, but after todays madness you never know.

What do you think this is about?

I don't know.

I doesn't make any sense.

I think it would be useful if you wanted to cut your losses and walk away without it looking like weakness, like when Biden cut loose from Afghanistan.

Yes, maybe, but having this undignified spectacle with all your enemies watching?

Doesn't that defeat the purpose?