Inverted Snobbery

[stbeaker]

I have noticed that MN has started to berate anybody who can afford to do or buy anything nice. See the recent 18k holiday thread with people calling the op grotesque.

Surely MN should be for all. For the rich, for the poor, and for everybody in the middle.

Now obviously if you are commenting on threads about people asking for advice who have a weekly shopping budget of £50 about how you shop in Selfridges food hall then you are an insensitive div.

But if you start a specific thread about a luxury holiday or what designer bag to get - then you should be allowed to do so without being labelled grotesque or having COL thrown at you.

I think it’s silly to say you’re unaware that £18k holidays exist. They are way beyond anything I could ever come close to affording, I grew up in poverty, didn’t go abroad until my 20s and although I’m doing ok I still don’t have a huge amount of money, but of course I am aware that other people do!

For those saying they didn’t know these holidays exist, how much do you think Simon cowell spends on a holiday? Or Beyoncé? Or any super rich person?

How much is the average holiday for a family of 4 to Orlando? My DB spent not far off 18k for his family last year.

I don't know why people can't be happy for one another. The posters who bleat on about a COL crisis remind me of my mother going on about the starving children when we didn't want to eat the crap she served up for dinner. Life isn't fair.

Pretty much bang on £18k all in during the holidays - and that's flying economy AND staying in the cheapest room in the cheapest hotel!

Im sure they do, one day, if I ever have enough money I would like to do the trans siberian express journey over perhaps a month

That would cost thousands and thousands. I might one day have the money

I wouldnt have a clue where to start. I dont use any other social media or forums so I would be coming here to ask

Additionally, and its not about a holiday but Im interested in face lifts which cost a lot more than 18k I can tell you. Again I would be asking advice on here just like others have done.

Someone snootily told them to 'check your privilege'.

I was told this in one of my threads (some time ago) when talking about fmaoly help. Apparently I can't ever say that I'm paying my own way and I'm extremely entitled since I have a support network. If everything goes to shits, I know my parents will let me come home to them and therefore I can never claim to pay my own way.

Really?

I totally agree with you Op. A little while back, I commented on a thread about what to feed your dog, quoting my vet who said that very cheap supermarket dogfood often resulted in health issues as the dog aged.
I was berated for this, with one poster calling my comment “vile and insensitive”. Ffs!! I’m often reluctant to post a comment because of the ‘check your privilege’ attitude that’s rampant here.

Yes , also for being in the lower earning gaps you are called < out of touch > with the world, when is actually the other way round. Good that there are men out there willing to pay for extravagant things

I do think that's a little harsh. If someone is genuinely really struggling it's not "bleating" and I'd have enough empathy to not expect them to be "happy" for someone who can afford to spend so much on non-essential purchases

18 K isn't a fortune here, but why post such details specifically on Mumsnet?

Because the budget is relevant when asking for holiday ideas? So people looking for 5* luxury resorts are not recommended tents in a field, and vice versa. If she had not mentioned the budget, that would have been the first question people asked.

Just ignore people, I dont take any notice. They're idiots.

Clearly ok, let's say she had access to these holidays and she is the mother. She is with the kids. So who earns the money? Him. Yes, it is family pot but he earns the money, however she need to come and brag about it on here. Now, that is very low class

Surely its none of their business, you see the thread title and ignore it surely

Why enter a thread just to complain about the OPs life, its ridiculous

How can you possibly know that? How do you know her parents aren’t very wealthy? How do you know she hasn’t inherited? How do you know she doesn’t have a very successful online business?

Nobody ever comes on mumsnet to find out stuff like the best five star hotel in wherever. They could just google it. They come on mumsnet for the sole purpose of winding people up/ giving others the opportunity to get wound up.
This is punctuated by threads like this where someone pretends to be confounded by the fact that someone can’t come on here and ask an “innocent” question about <insert one of the usual inflammatory topics>.so that everyone can have the same discussion yet again.

Yes they could - but they could also ask people who have real life experiences.

Theres a level of paranoia in that mentality that I dont recognise

It explains why no one can have a thread uninterrupted, posters constantly sneering and griping and feeling attacked when they're not.

You really had no idea holidays could cost 18k? Really?

Then why should MN even exist?! Anyone could google any of the questions on here!

I'm a higher earner. I've worked hard for it. I appreciate others make decisions to go into more noble, low-paying careers and also work hard, however I decided to go into a higher paid career, with its flaws as well, to earn good money. I don't have anyone IRL I can discuss these things with as I'm the first in my family to do so 'well' career-wise. I love MN - I've actually learnt quite a bit trawling through the threads about what lifestyles look like at different incomes. I'm not a jealous person though - I'd never begrudge someone richer a nicer house or holiday than me.

Nobody ever comes on mumsnet to find out stuff like the best five star hotel in wherever.

Soall the Ikos/Sani threads with numerous posters sharing their experiences are pure fantasy?

As I said, I had no idea. Why is this so startling to you?

let's say she had access to these holidays and she is the mother. She is with the kids. So who earns the money? Him.

Eh? I didn't see anything mentioned about who earns the money on that particular thread. Mothers are allowed to work, if this comes as news.

Let’s be honest - every thing you can find out on Google.

People don’t need to come on here and ask how to feed their family on the cheap. There are of lots of websites. Why do they do it? Because it’s nice to share experiences and talk to people in the same position as you.

Why is that any different to asking about luxury cars or holiday?

So how much did you think a first class ticket from the Uk to Sydney would cost?

It's never those who are struggling who post this crap though. It's always some do gooder who likes to think they're morally superior. It's all "think of the poor people." I grew up in poverty and I find the faux concern condescending.