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Anyone else feeling annoyed at how backwards the world is going?

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Littlemissgobby · 04/12/2024 23:32

Heard on the radio about how so many women in Scandinavian countries are becoming trad wives.
These are not just stay at home mums these are believing in the whole men work and women stay at home . Very traditional gender split.
Then on the radio talking now how many young men are following reform. A backlash against feminism and of course same old thing angry young men are attracted to the far right as they tell them it's everyone else to blame for their problems.
Andrew tate bollox a form of radicalisation which farage has jumped on.
I just find all this depressing.
Even listening today about how them footballers didn't want a pride flag on their kit.
You can't catch being gay. We haven't even had a fully committed gay footballer at the top as there is alot of homophonia amongst fans
I just find this a backward slide do you?

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username299 · 05/12/2024 02:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:29

It was just an observation, because it wasn't being pointed out and I felt it was lacking, hth @username299

It's no problem at all. Although I understand what you mean regarding the 'progressive' agenda, I was thinking about the recent riots, incel killings and insurrection in the States.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:31

There should be no belief because being gay or lesbian. Isn't a choice?

Which is completely irrelevant to whether someone believes it is a sin because that's what their religion and tradition and culture says. I'm not saying it's right, it's just a fact.

ByMerryKoala · 05/12/2024 02:31

The belief that fealty to rainbows is a good thing, regardless of the misogyny and homophobia that it has come to represent under the management of stonewall is absolutely a political belief.

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:32

ByMerryKoala · 05/12/2024 02:31

The belief that fealty to rainbows is a good thing, regardless of the misogyny and homophobia that it has come to represent under the management of stonewall is absolutely a political belief.

Except for what you are saying is utter bull s Stonewall, he's not homophobic now. I know it's fashionable. The people like you to say that, but there is absolutely no proof that stonewall is anti gay people
Yes, there are some gay people that side with the people that would attack them over transpeople. I'm not getting into that discussion. This is not the discussion for that, but stonewall is not against gay people, so that is a load of s

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HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:33

The footballer refused to wear the band because of his religion, so, as long as he doesn't start spouting out shite about a fairytale story to me, I'm happy for his decision not to wear a pride badge.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:33

Because that's what pride flag represents, it doesn't represent anything else, but apart from that being gay lesbian, whatever is fine.

No, it represents a lot more than that. I assume we are talking about the so called "progress pride" flag here? Not the traditional rainbow?

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:34

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:33

The footballer refused to wear the band because of his religion, so, as long as he doesn't start spouting out shite about a fairytale story to me, I'm happy for his decision not to wear a pride badge.

I will accept that, but I just don't think it's a belief. Religion is a belief being gay is not. I just feel that since we're in the 21st century, we don't even have a professional footballer. I don't believe who is gay. That is openly come out and done it.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:35

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:33

The footballer refused to wear the band because of his religion, so, as long as he doesn't start spouting out shite about a fairytale story to me, I'm happy for his decision not to wear a pride badge.

Quite.

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:33

Because that's what pride flag represents, it doesn't represent anything else, but apart from that being gay lesbian, whatever is fine.

No, it represents a lot more than that. I assume we are talking about the so called "progress pride" flag here? Not the traditional rainbow?

Oh here we go . This site can't help talk about trans people obsessive some are

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:36

You're the person mentioning "trans people" here @Littlemissgobby

TofuTart · 05/12/2024 02:36

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:26

Maybe yes, on principle that being gay isn't a choice and hiding behind a religion is b, and maybe we should all be calling this s** out. People who have a religious viewpoint that says being gay is wrong.I think really?We need to be calling it out more

I agree with that, it's not acceptable to be racist, it's not acceptable to be homophobic.
It should be called out more.
Yes, we're entitled to our beliefs, but when you try to curtail the rights of others as well it progresses into something more.

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:36

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:34

I will accept that, but I just don't think it's a belief. Religion is a belief being gay is not. I just feel that since we're in the 21st century, we don't even have a professional footballer. I don't believe who is gay. That is openly come out and done it.

I totally agree with you, but as a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, I really couldn't give a flying fig about this nondescript's actions ❤️

TofuTart · 05/12/2024 02:36

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:36

You're the person mentioning "trans people" here @Littlemissgobby

Try reading the whole thread.

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:37

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:36

I totally agree with you, but as a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, I really couldn't give a flying fig about this nondescript's actions ❤️

Fair enough. I'm not gay, but it seems to bother me a little bit. All this that we allow people to do this stuff because of their religion

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TofuTart · 05/12/2024 02:38

Don't even try like "oh you're the one bringing trans people up!"Have you even read the thread, or is it just the bits you liked you saw?

SammyScrounge · 05/12/2024 02:38

SmalllChange · 05/12/2024 00:03

Do you think people should be actively forced to wear symbols that they disagree with?

That's why the PP compared (and rightly so because it is comparable).

When a.badge stands for an ideology, it is best avoided. It could be signing you up for anything.
People who try to compel others to stand up for them and be counted are also to be avoided because compulsion always has a nasty edge. Other people have the right to accept.or reject anyone else's ideas and beliefs

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:39

SammyScrounge · 05/12/2024 02:38

When a.badge stands for an ideology, it is best avoided. It could be signing you up for anything.
People who try to compel others to stand up for them and be counted are also to be avoided because compulsion always has a nasty edge. Other people have the right to accept.or reject anyone else's ideas and beliefs

Is gay a belief is being gay a belief because it's not a choice, so it's not a belief

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:39

To sum up, I am extremely suspicious of controlling people and I fully support the rights of people not to affirm a political, religious or philosophical belief they disagree with, even if I disagree with their reason for doing so or think it morally wrong. Hope that helps!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:40

People who try to compel others to stand up for them and be counted are also to be avoided because compulsion always has a nasty edge. Other people have the right to accept.or reject anyone else's ideas and beliefs

Yes, exactly.

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:39

To sum up, I am extremely suspicious of controlling people and I fully support the rights of people not to affirm a political, religious or philosophical belief they disagree with, even if I disagree with their reason for doing so or think it morally wrong. Hope that helps!

I totally accept that I think with things like poppies and that should be up to you. I think with many things. It should be up to you, but I think to do it on the basis that it's against your religion. You might as well just come out and say. I don't agree with people being gay.
Why not do that? Why not be honest? That's the problem with me, it's a dishonesty

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WaylandNewt · 05/12/2024 02:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/12/2024 02:39

To sum up, I am extremely suspicious of controlling people and I fully support the rights of people not to affirm a political, religious or philosophical belief they disagree with, even if I disagree with their reason for doing so or think it morally wrong. Hope that helps!

to summary yours in a sense this philosophy : Nothing is true, everything is permitted. Means : Nothing is True: There is not concrete right or wrong answer to anything, you have to form your own opinions on issues. Everything is Permitted: You can use any means necessary to find your own personal truth.

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:42

@Littlemissgobby bloody hell you can type fast 🤣. On a serious note, I think the generation after me, so my nieces and nephews, they have really made me proud that they fight for everyone who faces oppression. I don't think they are an anomaly in that generation either. I feel optimistic. Keep up the good work @Littlemissgobby Thank you

Littlemissgobby · 05/12/2024 02:43

HereForTheAnimals · 05/12/2024 02:42

@Littlemissgobby bloody hell you can type fast 🤣. On a serious note, I think the generation after me, so my nieces and nephews, they have really made me proud that they fight for everyone who faces oppression. I don't think they are an anomaly in that generation either. I feel optimistic. Keep up the good work @Littlemissgobby Thank you

I am not typing. I am using speech recognition, because I have a cataract in one eye, and I can't see f* all
I can understand you have hope but interestly enough across the west. The women are going to the left even Young women and the guys are going to the right.So how's that going to work for relationships

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ByMerryKoala · 05/12/2024 02:44

You aren't getting into a discussion about how you believe that stonewall is neither homophobic or misogynistic on a thread that you started in which you lament that people have no truck with your determination of what it progressive?

A project which you feel comfortably encompasses telling people how to think and behave?

Firealarm1414 · 05/12/2024 02:45

TofuTart · 05/12/2024 02:36

I agree with that, it's not acceptable to be racist, it's not acceptable to be homophobic.
It should be called out more.
Yes, we're entitled to our beliefs, but when you try to curtail the rights of others as well it progresses into something more.

How is a footballer not wanting to wear an armband curtailing the rights of others?

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