Anyone else feeling annoyed at how backwards the world is going?

[Littlemissgobby]

Heard on the radio about how so many women in Scandinavian countries are becoming trad wives.
These are not just stay at home mums these are believing in the whole men work and women stay at home . Very traditional gender split.
Then on the radio talking now how many young men are following reform. A backlash against feminism and of course same old thing angry young men are attracted to the far right as they tell them it's everyone else to blame for their problems.
Andrew tate bollox a form of radicalisation which farage has jumped on.
I just find all this depressing.
Even listening today about how them footballers didn't want a pride flag on their kit.
You can't catch being gay. We haven't even had a fully committed gay footballer at the top as there is alot of homophonia amongst fans
I just find this a backward slide do you?

Except for how do they do that?If they are not all practising that being gay is ok, which it is ok, I don't give a s what religion you are.We need to be calling this s out for what it is

The players were advised not to wear the jackets they previously happily wore in warm ups so that Mazouri did not stand out...it was a protective measure for him.

Well having 'wrongthink' isn't illegal yet. Maybe youll just have to accept that people have their own opinions on a range of different topics. I don't understand getting all worked up about what other people do and don't believe.

And they didn't. End of. I think the brightsparks who tried to instigate the coat virtue signalling will think twice before trying to pull a stunt like that again.

The only good that came out of this is that it shows kids to stand up for your beliefs & not to bow down to virtue signalling if you are not comfortable. Your body. Your choice what to wear & what you want to symbolise.

See, I can see that point of view too, as you shouldn't have to wear it if you don't want to, for whatever reason.
I don't understand people who attack others for what they call "woke" though ( which seems to mean anything the right doesn't like, whether it's standing up against racism, showing support for anyone LGBT or even taking umbrage with too fancy sounding sandwiches 🫤😁)

It's not wrong think is it gay people exist and its as normal as being straight. It's people that write wrong think that are wrong.
It's not a choice so agreeing to it there is nothing to agree to it's the same as being straight

Agreed.
Those who are LGBTQ can fight their corner if they so wish, I won’t object in the slightest, good for you etc.

But I won’t jump onto your cause with you if that’s ok.
Mainly because I simply just don’t give a shit really and have other things to do as and think about. I guess the footballers are the same.

@suggestionsplease1

He was. And he should have been allowed to stand out for that, and the rest of his team should have not felt under pressure to not wear jackets that they had very happily previously worn out of a sense of obligation

Just trying to get to speed with what has happened as I don't follow football, but your comment makes it clear I think that someone didn't want to wear an armband but then everyone else wanted to make sure he didn't stand out by then not wearing one themselves?
That's ridiculous if I've got it right - that person is entitled to their views.
Let them stand by them.
Why should everyone else just abandon their principles and withdraw their support? They're entitled to their views and to offer support too.

Perhaps everyone should do what feels right to them and cynical corporate wank shouldn't be the order of the day, no?

there in lies the issue, some controls need to be in place otherwise its anarchy for society, because where is the line drawn, peoples beliefs etc that have shaped socity for eons, or modern interpretations where its adam and steve etc

A good example of said corporate wank

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5223916-q-how-much-did-the-pride-paint-job-on-that-train-cost-a-we-wont-tell-you-because-you-dont-believe-that-twaw

I worked until I met my husband and moved 3000 miles for his work — it was only for a year so I took a year off and not working felt great. It felt absolutely fantastic.
It felt so great that I didn’t return to work for 10 years and I was fortunate that my husband made a good living.
That doesn’t make me a trad wife. I think it makes me lazy more than anything else.

As far as Donald Trump, I’m pretty sure my fellow countrymen have gone completely insane. They certainly have lost their memories and common sense.

Well it is because you're condemning this footballer because according to you he doesnt 'think people should be gay' when he's never even said this. How is that not you trying to punish someone for 'wrongthink'? Even if he does think being gay is wrong, but otherwise is respectful to gay people and not abusing them, so what? having an opinion that is disagreeable isnt a crime, so there's not really anything that you can do about it is there? Would you like him to be sent for re-education or something?

Well I don't have a problem. Seeing a train with a paint job, that's got a pride flag on it.I think i'm more bothered that people are bothered by that because at the end of the day, if it raises awareness, and what's the problem

There was a case, Lee v Asher's Bakery, which set a precedent legally that you shouldn't be forced to affirm a message you fundamentally don't agree with.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59882444.amp

💯. People are free to think & act for themselves. Pushing virtue signalling onto people who don't want participate is oppressive & obviously the pushback against activists ,NGOs & corporations eventually will be immense .

i think one interpretation is then the battle of freedom vs religious doctrine, established eons of faith and to be blunt adam and eve, not adam and steve so to speak, plus some people would see the train as an example of other projects being more worthy of the ££ rather than wasted on a train

and what's the problem

It's a waste of money

They can't look after disabled people travelling but they do this

It's cynical corporate wank

I for one have never said different, completely agree in fact that everyone should do what feels right for them.
Just wish that they all have the courage to stand by their convictions, or don't cry that they're being "cancelled" if no-one wants to listen to their bigoted shit. No they're not, there's plenty on the same wave length all nodding along, you don't have to "push the truth" to those who are telling you they're not interested.

He didn't prove that it was thrown out on a technicality. But yes if the bigoted Christians didn't wanna do that cake then all you have to do nowadays is put that on social media
The Christian bakery will still get support I am sure but many wouldn't after hearing that

you don't have to "push the truth" to those who are telling you they're not interested.

Which equally applies to many many people you are more inclined to agree with @TofuTart

Not to be blunt, religious is a load of b*, because there is no proof of god, there is actually proof that being gay is not a choice. And it's the same as being heterosexual

It wasn't "thrown out on a technicality". Our highest court ruled in favour.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45789759

It might be a lot of corporate wank, as you say, but at the end of the day, why does it bother anybody? If you are getting to the point that a flag that represents gay and transpeople affects, you go on f look in the mirror and realize there's something wrong with you

now i can understand your points, and in an ideal society we would not need religion, but try telling that to the majority of society, ill have the car engine running ready so to speak for when you say that