The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136

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As we descend into 4 years of madness...

(thanks @Jaichangecentfoisdenom and* *@AcrossthePond55 for the suggestions)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5200273-hands-across-the-water-trump-thread-135

For all of you who were contemplating visits here, you have until 1 pm EST on Mon 20 Jan to get the hell out of Dodge. So if you can afford last minute plane fare, go for it!😜

"Gulf of America", ok fine. Sure you do that. Same thing as him taking that black Sharpie and changing the possible 'landfall' area for Hurricane Dorian. His minions will take Sharpies to old maps and print new maps for him showing 'GoA'.

Although according to NOAA the US 'has sovereignty' over part of the GoM 'in accordance with the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea'. So we'd have the GoA for the northern half and GoM for the southern.

www.ncei.noaa.gov/maps/gulf-data-atlas/atlas.htm?plate=Marine%20Jurisdictions#:~:text=The%20territorial%20sea%20was%20extended,column%20and%20into%20the%20subsoil.

Honestly, if I were the governor (or whatever the title is) of Greenland I'd do everything I could to 'black out' the visit media-wise. If he wants to come as a private citizen or businessman I guess he can't be stopped (no visa needed), but I certainly wouldn't give his visit any official recognition.

Justice Ellen Gesmer denies Trump's request to halt his sentencing this Friday

His plan for Greenland is probably to use a Sharpie to change it to Trumpland on the map.

XTwitter has some splendid reactions to Andrew Tate "standing for Prime Minister" and trying to sort him out a "PAC"
but the hard of thinking posters are elected to Congress

But... Andrew Tate is a brown Muslim** who actually has boasted about manipulating women into sex work/abusive sex, and is currently facing charges in another country for sex trafficking. Innocent until proven guilty and all, but why is he somehow sound as a pound to the same people who are asking why we aren't paying more attention to the crimes of brown Muslim men.

**Apologies to all the Muslim posters who probably don't want ownership of him. But if its any consolation Christian's have to suffer the likes of Tucker Carlson acting as their spokesperson.

Holy shit. I had no idea that Andrew Tate is a 'natural born US Citizen'. Luckily for us, he doesn't meet the 14 year US residency requirement for POTUS!

Sounds as if the 'sincerity' of his conversion (reversion?) to Islam is questionable. But as far as why he's not considered a 'brown muslim man' to those railing against a certain demographic, I'd say it's because he can 'pass'. Plus he's not Asian, he's bi-racial white British and African American. So I suppose he 'doesn't count' as a member of the targeted demographic.

Has the orange one been at the Mounjaro? His face has deflated like a Ompa-loompa that’s been pricked.

Talking of pricked, are there odds yet on when Zuckerberg will completely disappear up Trump’s arse?

Holy shit. I had no idea that Andrew Tate is a 'natural born US Citizen'.

I hope he's been paying his US taxes - you know, the ones Boris Johnson renounced his US citizenship over*

*Thanks to the US state department, this is one fact in Johnsons life of lies that can be verified.

These Los Angeles fires are going to be indescribably devastating. It must be my mood, but they feel like a harbinger of very difficult times ahead. I doubt there's ever been an administration less prepared to handle the immediate future.

Has he not already? And right before our very eyes. I miss the days when people tried to at least hide their corruption and grift.

Hope anyone in California, or with friends/family out there are safe. The footage on the news is terrifying.

Cant believe (well actually I can believe it) that Trump is still going on about Greenland and the Panama Canal. Maybe Denmark should say they’ll sell but the price is $27 trillion (US GDP)!

A former MN now FB friend lived in that fire area (now in the UK)
she knows LOTS of people whose homes are at risk.
So sad

I predict that trump will claim his commandeering of Greenland will enable him to reverse climate change.

And that the terrible fires in California are "fake news".

Has he suggested collecting all of the snow from DC and dumping it in LA yet?🤔

It was bad enough when it was just Musk, this is going to spread so much disinformation. I wish these tech oligarchs were interested in making the world a better place rather just power and money.

I was reading these articles on it this morning

Why did Mark Zuckerberg end Facebook and Instagram’s factchecking program?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/07/why-did-mark-zuckerberg-end-facebook-instagram-fact-checking

Meta scrapped factcheckers because systems were ‘too complex’
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/08/meta-scrapped-factcheckers-because-systems-were-too-complex

Meta to get rid of factcheckers and recommend more political content
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/07/meta-facebook-instagram-threads-mark-zuckerberg-remove-fact-checkers-recommend-political-content

Mark Zuckerberg sports $900,000 watch as he calls time on Meta fact-checking
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/07/zuckerberg-swiss-watch-meta-factchecking-video

Nick Clegg’s departure signals a new political era at Meta
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2025/jan/06/nick-clegg-meta-resignation

And relevant to this...
Carole Callawadr substack
How to Survive the Broligarchy
The Trump-Musk crackdown is coming. Here's 20 lessons in how to survive it.
https://broligarchy.substack.com/p/how-to-survive-the-broligarchy

He's been talking about how unhappy the whales are because of wind turbines.
I think that he'll make a deal with the whales such that in return for him banning wind turbines the whales will help him to melt Greenland and transport the water to where the fires are.

DS1has a number of friends who have been evacuated from the Palisades Fire. They evacuated early and are all safe but worried to death about their homes and neighbours. My nephew (elec lineman) was called out early last night because the city he works for lost all power. I know I haven't lived in So Cal for 30 years, but Santa Ana winds in January just seems unprecedented. Thank God we still have Joe since Scrotus has already threatened not to send federal aid to California in the event of a disaster.

In other news; Panama, Greenland, Canada. Can everyone say 'Lebensraum'? You can? I knew you could. (mis-quoting Mr Rogers, I hope he forgives me)

Glad to know your DS's friends are all out, @AcrossthePond55 , and I hope your nephew can stay safe in his job.

Hope all the friends of friends (inc yours, @Talkinpeace ) come through OK.

Glad your DS's friends are safe @AcrossthePond55. My heart goes out to everyone affected and all their worried friends and family. I think the scale of this is going to be difficult to comprehend.

Gosh, Fred Rogers and his cardigans and glasses of milk. That takes me back to a simpler time! My parents were quite strict about tv and that was one of the few things we were allowed to watch - I remember complaining about how boring it was and that ALL my other friends were allowed to watch much better stuff - i.e. The Flintstones 😅.

Mr Rogers Neighborhood
and Sesame Street

Put on your indoor slippers and Big Bird will think happy thoughts

@AcrossthePond55 Fingers and toes crossed that as few lives as possible are lost and that precious things were in fire proof cabinets.

Doesn't Mark Zuckerberg fuck gay horses while dressed as a girl ? Must do. Says so on Facebook ....

Thank God we still have Joe since Scrotus has already threatened not to send federal aid to California in the event of a disaster.

Yes - thankfully Joe is still in charge re aid/emergency workers being sent.

DH's family in CA (cousins and their offspring) are thankfully OK at the moment. One cousin is in Santa Monica and is on high alert, others are near Laguna Beach so should be safe.

And Trump will just ignore climate warnings as per usual. More beach front properties and warmer winters 🙄.

I think you must mean convicted rapist Mark Zuckerberg? I read all about that on Threads 😂