Looks like Trump could win?

[Kittykat86]

It's looking good for Trump. My dad is a total Trump hater and has been convinced that he won't win, especially since Kamala took over.
I don't know how the system works but is it too early to say that Trump is going to win?

I agree that politics has become extremely tribal. But I have to say, a lot of that originates from Trump himself. The man has absolutely no grace and is a big, spoilt baby - if he doesn't win he throws a massive tantrum. I think it's really hard to take his win graciously when he's behaved so appallingly and thrown disgusting accusations around.

We're not much better over here - Brexit caused an enormous divide which still hasn't healed.

Binary, tribal politics doesn't help any of us.

Tonight on the BBC there was a Republic and a Democrat and the conversation was just so refreshing. Although both clearly have different political leanings, they were respectful to each other and were willing to acknowledge when each other had a good point. And they weren't afraid to criticise or point out failings within their own party. It was such a breath of fresh air.

Marking the end of feminism in America.

Too far to the left? They’re about as left as Reagan. A few “feel good” social issues (without financial consequences on donors…) being the exception.

the democrats have screwed this up beyond comprehension. But being too far left is not the issue.

He's getting ready to come out & talk now (look & learn Kamala!)

All the pundits on cnn are saying it seems like people voted for Trump as they trust him to improve the economy more than Harris. That currently they’re concerned about inflation and job security and this is more important than women’s rights or even border security

she has postponed her speech - fair enough

This has - once again - made me so incredibly thankful I’m not living in a 2 party system.

Which seems to encourage black and white thinking and tribalism, unfortunately…

The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves. The US voting to subjugate themselves to mad King Donald. A dark day.

When Trump comes out graciously in defeat then you'll have a point.

He wouldn't even do a proper handover when he left the White House - the only president to strop out without waiting. And let's not even get into the mad accusations of voter fraud - but obviously only in the states where he lost.

Trump is great at bragging. That's not exactly news. It's his USP.

You make a very valid point about Kamala failing to put in an appearance, but let's not pretend your man is some beacon of honour.

I don't know how true it is but twice - independently of each other, American guys have said to me "anything but a woman" - they personally weren't against women, they were explaining why a female president will never happen.

Well that’s it then for the planet. I expect Trump will pull America out of the Paris accord so that they can drill, baby drill. Climate scientists must be very despondent.

No it's not, she should have graciously thanked her supporters & congratulated the incoming president.

From an outsiders point of view, (I live in Wales), Kamala looked as though she’s been campaigning against herself with all this ‘change’ rhetoric. Change from what? The Democrats have been in power for the last four years.

I’m so glad we visited the US before the election. Can’t believe that any woman, or any decent man, would vote for him. At this point I think the US will never have a female president. I fear for our world.

What a bizarre way to think. I guess that’s fanaticism for you.

but its not over yet

I'm sure millions upon millions of females voted for him too! What a comeback!

we are worried @Pumpkinspawn
you wont change my mind

I have to be honest that if I lived in the US I'd feel quite despairing about only being able to pick between Harris and Trump.

I'd always go for Harris because Trump is absolutely awful in every possible way, but it would be a extremely reluctant vote. There's much about Harris' policies that I don't like. It's not a great choice.

I actually blame the Republicans somewhat for this mess - being willing to put up a felon with further pending trials as their candidate speaks volumes about their morals. I have a lot of respect for the Republicans that have refused to support him. It's career suicide for them but extremely honourable - which seems to be a rare thing in politics these days.

I’m sure she will do when it’s over. While it’s looking exceedingly likely Trump will win it’s not been called yet? So she won’t concede yet I guess just in case of a miracle.

just what does this say about Americans!

Glad I visited the US last year. I won't be going whilst he is in power. I don't feel safe as a woman visiting that country.

Explain to me what the change was then? I’m genuinely interested.

That's rich coming from a Trump supporter!

I don't think she should have conceded because there is still a mathematical chance. I think it all hinges on Pennsylvania. I think she's probably toast but it's not absolutely over yet.

But I really do think she should have appeared to say thanks, and let's reconvene tomorrow. I think it's extremely poor form just vanishing and leaving crowds to disperse. It's very ungrateful.

The optics are awful too - lots of celebrations and high spirits in the Republican camp, while the Democrats slink home. It's not a good look.