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Do you think being thin will become less desirable now it’s more attainable?

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thehighgatevampire · 03/11/2024 07:31

I was just thinking about this, being thin has always been seen as something desirable but not something that everyone could manage for whatever reason but now with weight loss injections it’s something that’s open to many more people.

Things with an element of rarity are always attractive to us but a part of that has now gone wrt to being thin.

just for context I’m what the internet would call mid size and I’d love to be eligible for the injections but I’m not. I could almost definitely lose weight the traditional way but now I know there is an ‘easy’ alternative out there I some how feel cheated in some way because I need to work at it whilst others can get an injection to do it. I know that sounds pathetic but just being honest.

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Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:34

I didn't think they would let you buy mj when you got to correct BMI .
Im terribly worried it will go back on if I stop taking it .
My plan was to just loose enough to get back to the gym.
I don't want to be on it ,longer than I absolutely have to be

DreamyDreamy · 03/11/2024 12:38

JabbaTheBeachHut · 03/11/2024 11:09

It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the fat children once their parents slim down using the drugs.

It's rare to see a fat child with slim parents, so I wonder if they'll continue into obesity until they're old enough for WLI, or if their parents might overhaul the entire family's diet?

Yes, I’m curious about that as well. Will the meds encourage parents to change the family’s eating habits or the opposite: no reason to deny treats to kids as they will be about to lose the weight later in life. I’m choosing to be optimistic about it, who knows, it could be a great thing.

unsync · 03/11/2024 12:40

Getting deja vu here. Exactly the same question posted a couple of weeks ago. Why do you care? Who sees it as desirable? It's such a shallow, misogynistic attitude. Women really should stop buying into this bullshit.

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:42

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:34

I didn't think they would let you buy mj when you got to correct BMI .
Im terribly worried it will go back on if I stop taking it .
My plan was to just loose enough to get back to the gym.
I don't want to be on it ,longer than I absolutely have to be

A lot of pharmacies are now offering maintenance, but you have to show you have had a prescription since you were >30 bmi

Relaxedandchilled · 03/11/2024 12:43

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:34

I didn't think they would let you buy mj when you got to correct BMI .
Im terribly worried it will go back on if I stop taking it .
My plan was to just loose enough to get back to the gym.
I don't want to be on it ,longer than I absolutely have to be

You don’t need to be, it is personal choice. Others if they need it can stay on it. It is about the individual, if someone will regain them it is even worse health wise for them to come off and regain, much healthier to stay on a low dose and maintain a healthy weight. If you can do that without drugs, that’s fabulous, and you should do that, but many couldn’t, and I suspect I am one of those people.

Relaxedandchilled · 03/11/2024 12:45

Refreshingpie · 03/11/2024 12:30

But if you stay on it for life won’t you become underweight ? Or can it be given in a really tiny maintenance dose? With the ones you can only have for 2 years what happens then will it be like yoyo dieting and people will put the weight back on ?

No if you titrate back down you should be able to find a dose that allows you to maintain, not lose, not gain, be it 5mg or 2.5, even 7.5.

sorry and the ones you come off after two years, I don’t know,

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:46

DreamyDreamy · 03/11/2024 12:38

Yes, I’m curious about that as well. Will the meds encourage parents to change the family’s eating habits or the opposite: no reason to deny treats to kids as they will be about to lose the weight later in life. I’m choosing to be optimistic about it, who knows, it could be a great thing.

Im a fat parent of 3 older teenage children. 2 are perfectly average, 1 is the higher end of normal according to the under 18s BMI chart on NHS. She also has PCOS that was diagnosed at 15. Shes now 16. We have joined a gym together, she is eating healthier with me. Her understanding of diet is improving, her understanding of her own condition, insulin resistance, and the affect PCOS can have on weight is improving.

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:46

Relaxedandchilled · 03/11/2024 12:43

You don’t need to be, it is personal choice. Others if they need it can stay on it. It is about the individual, if someone will regain them it is even worse health wise for them to come off and regain, much healthier to stay on a low dose and maintain a healthy weight. If you can do that without drugs, that’s fabulous, and you should do that, but many couldn’t, and I suspect I am one of those people.

I'm worried I'm going to need to stay on it permanently
But my plan was to stay on it long enough to get back to the gym
I'm on my 5 th week of it ,and some days it doesn't work as well as others,and I'm back to square one trying to cram as much food in as possible,it's like I'm possessed or something..ugh

Relaxedandchilled · 03/11/2024 12:47

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:46

I'm worried I'm going to need to stay on it permanently
But my plan was to stay on it long enough to get back to the gym
I'm on my 5 th week of it ,and some days it doesn't work as well as others,and I'm back to square one trying to cram as much food in as possible,it's like I'm possessed or something..ugh

Maybe speak to your prescriber, I dint think anyone here can advise, im sorry.

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:48

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:42

A lot of pharmacies are now offering maintenance, but you have to show you have had a prescription since you were >30 bmi

At what BMI ,will they say ,no enough,no more weight loss

GinForBreakfast · 03/11/2024 12:48

Mothers are the biggest influencers of what goes into the supermarket shopping trolley so I don't doubt this will have a positive influence on children's diets.

I wonder when it will reach tipping point and start to reduce the sugar saturation in supermarkets, train stations, corner shops etc. I really noticed the walls of processed crap I had to walk past to pay for my petrol this morning. It's hard to resist at the best of times but with a WLJ all that incidental snacking will decrease, no?

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:48

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:46

I'm worried I'm going to need to stay on it permanently
But my plan was to stay on it long enough to get back to the gym
I'm on my 5 th week of it ,and some days it doesn't work as well as others,and I'm back to square one trying to cram as much food in as possible,it's like I'm possessed or something..ugh

5th week means you are still only on loading doses. Clinical trails saw most people had the effects at 10-15mg, not 2.5-5mg.

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:49

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:48

5th week means you are still only on loading doses. Clinical trails saw most people had the effects at 10-15mg, not 2.5-5mg.

I didn't know that ,thankyou x

LolaLouise · 03/11/2024 12:49

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:48

At what BMI ,will they say ,no enough,no more weight loss

depends on the pharmancy, some will stop wonce you hit BMI 23, others prescribe maintenance, some you titrate back down. It depends who you are with, which is why its best to research the pharmacies not just for price.

valueyourself · 03/11/2024 12:51

Arraminta · 03/11/2024 12:12

I'm on Mounjaro. Just for the hard of thinking:

You still have to reduce your calories.
You cannot scoff chocolate and still lose weight.
You still have to exercise restraint.
You still have to make healthy choices.

I'm thinking of getting a t-shirt printed with this on.

Actually I haven't had to count calories or watch what I eat. The appetite surpression I get from MJ actually means I have to set 'reminders to eat' on my phone. It would be impossible for me to eat more calories than I use.

I have always exercised. I have always cooked healthy food from scratch mostly because I enjoy it. I became obese because of no hunger off switch and the 'see-food' diet . Literally see food put it in my mouth. I've never been interested in sweets or chocolate. Just too much good food.

For me MJ is completely miraculous . It is a Syringe of Will power.

The cost is also interesting. I have paid between £111-£149 every 5 weeks . Depending where I find my discount. (Ironically, my latest pen containing the largest dose I've had - 15mg - was £111) .

That's between £22-30 a week. An amount I save probably twice over in non-bought coffee and the sheer amount of food I used to consume.

I am now starting the maintenance titration.. where I will probably be for life . I have no problem with this. I used to be on blood pressure meds. statin and vit D .. so just replaced one life long medication for another.

surreygirl1987 · 03/11/2024 12:51

Jolenepleasetakeawaymyman · 03/11/2024 08:00

I do understand that being overweight has health implications but has being slim always bee what attracted people? Like a previous poster said attitudes have changed since the past. And in other cultures for various reasons larger women have been seen as more desirable. Also if a person is underweight doesn’t that also affect fertility? And women need stores for breast feeding. I was under the impression the very slim ideal was quite recent.

I hope no one thinks I am judging their weight being slim or obese or any where in between. Everyone is human and I don’t want to upset anyone and respect everyone. We all deserve to be valued for who we are not our weight or size.

You're right - if you track ideals of beauty through the ages you can see that it changes. There was a time where plump and large domed stomachs on women were the ideal. At other times high foreheads and long pointed noses were in vogue. Currently it's being thin.

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Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:54

valueyourself · 03/11/2024 12:51

Actually I haven't had to count calories or watch what I eat. The appetite surpression I get from MJ actually means I have to set 'reminders to eat' on my phone. It would be impossible for me to eat more calories than I use.

I have always exercised. I have always cooked healthy food from scratch mostly because I enjoy it. I became obese because of no hunger off switch and the 'see-food' diet . Literally see food put it in my mouth. I've never been interested in sweets or chocolate. Just too much good food.

For me MJ is completely miraculous . It is a Syringe of Will power.

The cost is also interesting. I have paid between £111-£149 every 5 weeks . Depending where I find my discount. (Ironically, my latest pen containing the largest dose I've had - 15mg - was £111) .

That's between £22-30 a week. An amount I save probably twice over in non-bought coffee and the sheer amount of food I used to consume.

I am now starting the maintenance titration.. where I will probably be for life . I have no problem with this. I used to be on blood pressure meds. statin and vit D .. so just replaced one life long medication for another.

I can only dream of this , hopefully when I'm on higher does I will be the same .
I could easily still stuff my face ,and I'm needing a lot of willpower
But it is helping,and hopefully will help more as I go on .

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 03/11/2024 12:58

I'm one of those using them to 'lose a couple of stone' because the difference between me being obese and having a healthy BMI is only around 3 stone due to my height. At 13 stone my BMI was over 31, my goal weight of 10 stone will give me a BMI of 24.

I'm currently at 11.5 stone and feeling healthier than I have in years, I've also been able to increase the amount of exercise I can do due to vastly reduced joint pain.

I've managed to lose weight 'the hard way' before and it was miserable and all came back on again as the hunger I felt constantly on reduced calories was unsustainable,

MJ switches that hunger off, I've had no side effects at all and I'm just eating 3 small healthy meals a day and plenty of water

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 03/11/2024 13:00

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:48

At what BMI ,will they say ,no enough,no more weight loss

23

Notsuchafattynow · 03/11/2024 13:03

JabbaTheBeachHut · 03/11/2024 11:09

It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the fat children once their parents slim down using the drugs.

It's rare to see a fat child with slim parents, so I wonder if they'll continue into obesity until they're old enough for WLI, or if their parents might overhaul the entire family's diet?

I think that's an interesting point. My DS has lost 8lb just because I no longer buy the crisps, biscuits and chocolate etc. He was never fat, but was carrying too much weight.

It's helping me see we'd fallen into the trap of snacks being an everyday occurrence, rather than an actual treat to have occasionally.

Movinghouseatlast · 03/11/2024 13:12

Loobyloo9 · 03/11/2024 12:48

At what BMI ,will they say ,no enough,no more weight loss

It stops working in my experience. I'm on the highest dose and now just maintaing forvthe last 4 months. I actually put 2Ibs on last week.

It's a myth that it's an easy way out. You have to calorie count and exercise like with any diet

zaffa · 03/11/2024 13:16

Bobandbear · 03/11/2024 09:46

I’m not convinced the weight loss jabs will just become the norm. I’m a size 16 and overweight but wouldn’t touch them due to the potential health risks. While I’m well aware there are risks associated with being overweight I’d rather loose the weight through a healthy diet and exercise. The long term side effects are still unknown and there have been deaths associated with them too. While I understand the draw of a quick fix for me long term health is important. I think they are great for people who are hugely overweight but it concerns me that people are using them just to loose a stone or two.

Why does it concern you?

Hoplolly · 03/11/2024 13:20

Notsuchafattynow · 03/11/2024 13:03

I think that's an interesting point. My DS has lost 8lb just because I no longer buy the crisps, biscuits and chocolate etc. He was never fat, but was carrying too much weight.

It's helping me see we'd fallen into the trap of snacks being an everyday occurrence, rather than an actual treat to have occasionally.

That is really true, same with dinners. I fell into the habit of having a pizza Thursday, takeaway Friday night, meal out Saturday, Sunday roast dinner...which is way too much looking back but it became normal!

Relaxedandchilled · 03/11/2024 13:23

Hoplolly · 03/11/2024 13:20

That is really true, same with dinners. I fell into the habit of having a pizza Thursday, takeaway Friday night, meal out Saturday, Sunday roast dinner...which is way too much looking back but it became normal!

Agree, my husband has lost half a stone, he’s not on the jabs, as the food we eat over the last month has been healthy and there is no snacks. When he does snack he gets a small bowl. My daughter is a very healthy weight and always managed her portions and fitness,