Do you think being thin will become less desirable now it’s more attainable?

[thehighgatevampire]

I was just thinking about this, being thin has always been seen as something desirable but not something that everyone could manage for whatever reason but now with weight loss injections it’s something that’s open to many more people.

Things with an element of rarity are always attractive to us but a part of that has now gone wrt to being thin.

just for context I’m what the internet would call mid size and I’d love to be eligible for the injections but I’m not. I could almost definitely lose weight the traditional way but now I know there is an ‘easy’ alternative out there I some how feel cheated in some way because I need to work at it whilst others can get an injection to do it. I know that sounds pathetic but just being honest.

No, I think being thin will always be desirable.

I wonder if the burgeoning use of GLPs will make us more ‘fatist’? At the gym yesterday, my friend was talking about a mutual friend who is extremely overweight and said ‘why doesn’t she go on Ozempic?’. It annoyed me and also made me think, will there be an assumption that fat people have to start injections and if not, why not?

There’s nothing to be jealous about. Once they’re off the jabs, they still have to keep the weight off ‘the old-fashioned’ way. If they do, then that’s a major accomplishment and well done to them for doing so. The jabs aren’t forever.

No. I don't think so. Firstly, I think many of the drivers of obesity are still there (poverty, the availability of cheap fast food, less active lifestyles etc). Secondly, I suspect that a sizeable proportion of people on WLI haven't necessarily done the work they need to do to re-train their eating habits and just see injections as a quick fix (this is definitely the case with a friend I have who takes them). Unless they plan to be on them for life - which clearly has cost implications - they will likely put the weight on when they come off them. Clearly, this is not the case for everyone at all and lots of people are using them very sensibly but, at the end of the day, it's still a diet isn't it?

Please please talk to your GP, because you absolutely should not be buying them from a beautician, they aren't licensed to sell them and those are the sorts of suppliers you hear the horror stories about.
You need to go through a prescribing pharmacy service, where a registered doctor will complete a consultation and prescribe the most appropriate medication which is dispensed through a registered pharmacist.
Head over to the weight loss injections boards to get a comparison of costs from different registered suppliers if cost is a driving factor.

Actually they are. Mounjaro is licensed to be used for life and more and more suppliers are now offering maintenance doses.

buti see this attitude a lot, the “they will just regain”. Sorry to disappoint.

Unless they plan to be on them for life - which clearly has cost implications - they will likely put the weight on when they come off them

the cost will come down. Significantly. See my earlier post.

This seems an unusual thought process. You’d rather remain fat and unhealthy than “cheat”, as that really summarises what you are saying if you’re a great candidate? Are you the same with other meds, like for blood pressure, cholesterol etc? You’d rather keep having the issue and trying to fix it yourself?

No. The sheer amount of overweight/obese people is a new thing. Go back to when our parents growing up and truly fat people were rare. More people being slim/thin will just become normal- not a bad thing I think

I'm one of three sisters. I'm the tallest by six inches.

I'm 5' 8" and 62 kilos. That's slimish as a 50 year old woman. I was 48 kilos for years, that was a thin woman.

My sisters are both about 5' 2" and about 45 kilos. They are slim.

I was at a party yesterday, all ages, there was a very thin woman there who apologised to the hostess for having pudding. She was a bit older than me, I did say to her 'why are you apologising for eating?' She was thin in a way you don't often see women over 55ish. I suspect with the apology for having a small piece of cheesecake, there was an eating disorder involved.

I'd love to be sub-60 kilos, even at 5' 8" I'm carrying a few extra pounds but I like bread, cheese and wine so it's an accommodation.

I do feel massive compared to my sisters though.

But I always did. I'm a bigger person.

It would be nice if it stopped weight being used as some sort of moral barometer.

I’m thinking about you now. Do you think maybe you’re punishing yourself. For being fat and that’s why you think taking medication is cheating, that you deserve to struggle and do it the hard way?

I don't agree sadly. It's not just healthiness that is lionised - it's a skeletal figure.

I'm aware of friends who have been told how great they look when in medical crisis eg cancer treatment, thyroid dysfunction etc.

The research shows that for older women life expectancy is longer in overweight women than either "normal" weight or obese ones.

People will always look better at an optimal weight rather than being overweight or underweight. I don't think it being more attainable will change that, people who are insecure in their bodies and aren't bothered about health at all but just want to be seen as superior will no doubt seek something else; but that's pathetic.

MJ makes you feel shit. Some people may opt for a lifetime of that but it’s not a pleasant way to live your life. Neither is being fat obviously but if they want to feel the same level of ‘good’ that a slim person does who isn’t on MJ, then they can’t be on it for life. They have to keep the weight off the old-fashioned way.

Goodness, darling woman, why would something that made your life better be 'cheating'?

As a lifelong thin woman I wouldn't see your weightloss as 'cheating', I am really thrilled when people around me are using the jabs and losing weight. I don't see my thinness as some kind of triumph. I'm just super-lucky that I always had a very good relationship with food.

I'm addicted to cigarettes, would you be jealous if my nicotine addiction could be easily dealt with? Would you view it as a moral failing?

No, of course you wouldn't. It's easier because it's not so visible though.

Where do you get the pens from does anyone have any links please?

I think you’ve misunderstood the term mortality or maybe read some erroneous headlines. Life expectancy is the highest, or mortality at 23-24 bmi, ie these women live the longest. This then reduces the fatter you get, with moderately obese women having 3 years less on average and severely obese ten years.

the study was done by Oxford uni and the papers available on line.

Almost no NHS funding so you need to look privately if you want them now

It makes me feel fantastic , genuinely. All inflammation down, ankles no longer stiff, sleep apnea releived, so much more energy. And anecdotally I am far from alone,

The Google is freely available.

You can never be too rich or thin is the maxim that still applies. Seemingly half of MN threads revolves around those two attributes. Poor, rich, thin, overweight, someone is going to have something to say

🤨Obviously, I have googled this but there's that many different ones I wasn't sure what one to trust..

I'm not taking them but if I do decide to, I will definitely go via my GP. Thank you though, I wouldn't feel safe at all taking meds from a beautician.

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