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How can I discourage DD10 from identifying as a cat

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Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:03

NC for this in case I get jumped on.

DD has just started year 6, and during the summer holidays she started pretending to be a cat. I'm going through a divorce at the moment, so at first I thought it was a bit of a childish regression as a response to all the changes, and just assumed it would fizzle out once she went back to school.

Unfortunately, she seems to have gone in the other direction with it, and is now saying she 'identifies' as a cat and spent some of her birthday money on a couple of masks and tails. Her dad and I have tried to mostly ignore and gently discourage it, but we've since become aware of the more sinister 'furry' connotations of this kind of thing. We're also both pretty GC, so we're definitely not happy about her 'identifying' as anything and want to put a stop to it. I've always had very frank conversations with her about how people may identify as different things, but it's not possible to change biology.

However, we have no idea how to explain it to her in terms she'll understand, and meanwhile she seems to be wanting to take it further and further. I'm also worried that if we give her a hard no, we'll end up pushing her even further in the other direction. I've already told her she's not allowed to dress up at school, and today while we were out another parent questioned her 'tail', which led to a conversation in which she told me that grown adults have called her 'furry' and growled at her in public.

That crosses a very clear line for me, so I ended up telling her that she's not to dress up in public any more because it's not appropriate for her age. The problem is she has NO IDEA of the more sinister connotations of what she's doing, so she doesn't understand what that means. She's currently in her room crying and saying she hates me and that I must be embarrassed and disappointed in her.

How can I explain it to her in a way she'll get and without having to bring sex into it?!

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StormingNorman · 29/09/2024 14:04

You Tube videos of George Galloway on Celebrity BB will give her the ick about being a cat.

zeitweilig · 29/09/2024 14:07

Tell her that it's ok to play dress up, as a cat or whatever, but each time she says she IS a cat correct her and tell her she is a human. If need be sit down and list all the differences between her and actual cats (from fluffy pet ones through to tigers and lions). Don't let her buy any more props either. You have to be firm because she isn't a cat and you know that.

MrsKwazi · 29/09/2024 14:08

Well where is she seeing/hearing this nonsense? Phone gone and no social media.
I wouldn't entertain it either. It’s not like she is 4.

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murasaki · 29/09/2024 14:08

StormingNorman · 29/09/2024 14:04

You Tube videos of George Galloway on Celebrity BB will give her the ick about being a cat.

🤣🤣🤣

2dogsandabudgie · 29/09/2024 14:09

If this is real, why did you let her buy the tails and masks in the first place, never mind wearing them in public.

Just give her cat food instead of a proper dinner, that should put an end to the nonsense.

Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:10

MrsKwazi · 29/09/2024 14:08

Well where is she seeing/hearing this nonsense? Phone gone and no social media.
I wouldn't entertain it either. It’s not like she is 4.

It's not so much the immaturity of it that worries me, it's the fact that she's engaging in something which, the more she gets into it, I realise is quite clearly a diluted version of an adult kink.

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Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:11

2dogsandabudgie · 29/09/2024 14:09

If this is real, why did you let her buy the tails and masks in the first place, never mind wearing them in public.

Just give her cat food instead of a proper dinner, that should put an end to the nonsense.

Unfortunately it is real! As I said in my OP, at first I dismissed it as childish nonsense and assumed it would fizzle out once she was back at school with her friends. Unfortunately that isn't the case.

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Seas164 · 29/09/2024 14:11

What access to online content does she have?

DoreenonTill8 · 29/09/2024 14:12

Seas164 · 29/09/2024 14:11

What access to online content does she have?

This. Well no tv, toys, gaming. Cats don't do much but sleep and eat.
What online content is she watching?

Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:13

Seas164 · 29/09/2024 14:11

What access to online content does she have?

She watches YouTube, but we monitor her usage and she mainly watches things like Moriah Elizabeth. If she is watching any content about this it's not obvious from her history.

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Neveranynamesleft · 29/09/2024 14:13

Give her tinned cat food and biscuits at meal times and tell her to use a litter tray when she needs to go use the loo.
Put her in the garden at night time, regardless of the weather, and ask her to catch any mice knocking about.

BiscuitlyBoyle · 29/09/2024 14:13

MrsKwazi · 29/09/2024 14:08

Well where is she seeing/hearing this nonsense? Phone gone and no social media.
I wouldn't entertain it either. It’s not like she is 4.

Exactly this. Closely monitor her social media usage. Even better get her a dumb phone. Texting and calls only.

TheRozzers · 29/09/2024 14:14

I hope she's at least catching some mice for you.

Second the suggestion of showing her the George Galloway video.

Imperrysmum · 29/09/2024 14:14

I mean when I was a child back in the 1990s I insisted I was a goat and made my mum tie me up to a chair leg and feed me lettuce and water out of a bowl 😂 🤷‍♀️ soon grew out of it and this was before any of this “identifying” crap.

Just leave her to crack on, don’t pay much attention to it, she’ll soon get into something else Im sure.

zeitweilig · 29/09/2024 14:14

Neveranynamesleft · 29/09/2024 14:13

Give her tinned cat food and biscuits at meal times and tell her to use a litter tray when she needs to go use the loo.
Put her in the garden at night time, regardless of the weather, and ask her to catch any mice knocking about.

Don't do this.
Please don't do this.

Karmaisac4t · 29/09/2024 14:15

Imperrysmum · 29/09/2024 14:14

I mean when I was a child back in the 1990s I insisted I was a goat and made my mum tie me up to a chair leg and feed me lettuce and water out of a bowl 😂 🤷‍♀️ soon grew out of it and this was before any of this “identifying” crap.

Just leave her to crack on, don’t pay much attention to it, she’ll soon get into something else Im sure.

Edited

shouldn’t laugh but the image of a child tied to the chair being a goat has cracked me right up

Neveranynamesleft · 29/09/2024 14:15

Isn't that what cats do ??

zeitweilig · 29/09/2024 14:16

Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:13

She watches YouTube, but we monitor her usage and she mainly watches things like Moriah Elizabeth. If she is watching any content about this it's not obvious from her history.

ME is the one who repairs squishies and does craft, right? She has (or did have) a cat but I don't recall her ever acting like one!

Snowdrops17 · 29/09/2024 14:16

I wonder if you told her and put into practice that you can't bring her places that she likes so if she asks to go to the cinema or even the shop for sweets but you can't as they don't allow cats if you keep doing that she might snap out of it .

DoreenonTill8 · 29/09/2024 14:17

zeitweilig · 29/09/2024 14:14

Don't do this.
Please don't do this.

But cats gotta cat.....?

Crazyeight · 29/09/2024 14:17

All internet access would be gone in our house. I would be signing her up to some out of school clubs where children do normal things away from screens and don't have time to sit around pondering their identities.

Imperrysmum · 29/09/2024 14:18

Karmaisac4t · 29/09/2024 14:15

shouldn’t laugh but the image of a child tied to the chair being a goat has cracked me right up

😂 Id stay there for hours tied to the chair leg pretending I was a goat. I genuinely loved it! My mum checked in on me very often to check I was still okay 🤷‍♀️

Nocatsplease · 29/09/2024 14:18

Imperrysmum · 29/09/2024 14:14

I mean when I was a child back in the 1990s I insisted I was a goat and made my mum tie me up to a chair leg and feed me lettuce and water out of a bowl 😂 🤷‍♀️ soon grew out of it and this was before any of this “identifying” crap.

Just leave her to crack on, don’t pay much attention to it, she’ll soon get into something else Im sure.

Edited

This was my first instinct to be honest, but it doesn't seem to be going away. She's heard rumours of kids at secondary doing this so I think in her head it's something to aspire to.

The parent I was talking to this morning said her friend is the head of one of the local secondary schools, and apparently she said it's quite a problem there, with several of them identifying as different animals and requesting things like litter trays etc.

I thought that sort of thing was Mumsnet hyperbole so couldn't quite believe I was being told by someone in real life!

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zeitweilig · 29/09/2024 14:18

DoreenonTill8 · 29/09/2024 14:17

But cats gotta cat.....?

She isn't a cat though.

marzipanbattenburg · 29/09/2024 14:19

Imperrysmum · 29/09/2024 14:18

😂 Id stay there for hours tied to the chair leg pretending I was a goat. I genuinely loved it! My mum checked in on me very often to check I was still okay 🤷‍♀️

I'm cracking up cos this is exactly the kind of thing I would have done 🤣 and long before the days of 'identifying' as anything. I was just pretending, imaginary games