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Absolutely fekkin fuming

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almondflake · 14/09/2024 01:47

We're Into the first day of a family holiday to Mexico with our daughter, her boyfriend and another couple .
It took us hours to get here and after a decent nights sleep , daughters boyfriend has had too much to drink and kicked off big time , storming round the hotel then kicking the hotel room door in . Luckily the hotel have not called the police , we've paid for the door , my husband has taken the boyfriend away to sober up , I'm sat in my hotel room with a distraught daughter .we're hoping to get him on a flight home tomorrow as he can't stay here , I'm absolutely furious with him, he's 24 and he's blaming it all on our daughter .
I'm not looking for solutions just venting really .

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WearyAuldWumman · 14/09/2024 20:51

almondflake · 14/09/2024 19:59

@DeccaM she's just turned 21 .

She's so young. No wonder she's been taken in. :(

Wishing you all the very best.

NonsuchCastle · 14/09/2024 20:57

almondflake · 14/09/2024 12:32

Wow , thanks for all your input . It's 6.20 am here and to answer a few questions , my daughter isn't pregnant , the cat is being looked after by a friend , my daughter lives with him in a house we own , his parents are aware of what's happened and have been supporting my daughter . We don't want the police involved as Mexican police are so different to English police we'd rather get home and deal with this there not 5000 miles away from home .
My daughter is still in the room with me and her dad is next door with the boyfriend .
I have suggested she reads this thread but i don't think she's ready to yet .
Your support has been greatly appreciated and I do believe long term he needs to go , my daughter does have low self esteem which we try to bolster at any opportunity but ultimately as most of you say this is her choice not ours .

Dear OP
If it were me I would get the locks changed before you all return.

Can a friend of your daughter's get the locks changed for her? She will have to do it anyway once she returns. Then you will know the cat is safe and the flat won't be trashed.

NonsuchCastle · 14/09/2024 21:12

almondflake · 14/09/2024 16:31

I think this may be the last post , we've decided to deal with this when we get home .
He's mortified and embarrassed about what he's done as he should be , we shan't involve the Mexican police as the hotel don't want to get them involved either .
We said he should go home but our daughter said she wouldn't want to stay without him for whatever reason and I'd rather her be where I can see them .
So we're going to make the best of things as other family members are coming out today .
He's not allowed any alcohol and he's made apologies to the hotel who have said he'll be under surveillance for the rest of the holiday .
Thanks again for all your support and comments .

Awful situation for you.

Can you not really put your foot down with your daughter and tell her that he is going home? Worth a try?
And have someone in situ at the house they share so that she is not on her own when they get back if she insists on going back with him?

Pictures50 · 14/09/2024 21:19

OP, your daughter has a house funded by you.
She has chosen to mislead you for a year.

Scum like him has no doubt been attracted to her youth and ready set up.

She chose to lie to you, by ommission.
I certainly don't think she is responsible enough for a free house, not when she thinks its a good idea to move in a free loading cocklodger.

Change those locks and get them both out until she grows up.
She needs to mature.

PyongyangKipperbang · 14/09/2024 21:43

Pictures50 · 14/09/2024 21:19

OP, your daughter has a house funded by you.
She has chosen to mislead you for a year.

Scum like him has no doubt been attracted to her youth and ready set up.

She chose to lie to you, by ommission.
I certainly don't think she is responsible enough for a free house, not when she thinks its a good idea to move in a free loading cocklodger.

Change those locks and get them both out until she grows up.
She needs to mature.

I hate to say it, and I wouldnt use the same words, but I agree that your dd is too young for the life she is living.

She is ripe for manipulative scumbags to take advantage of, she hasnt enough life experience to weed out the cocklodgers and users.

Maybe terminate the free house arrangement for a year, if only because if she chooses to say with him (and she wouldnt be the first abused woman to do that) then he has to come to your house and its not all behind closed doors.

almondflake · 14/09/2024 21:55

Thank you @Floppyelf .

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almondflake · 14/09/2024 21:56

Thank you @WearyAuldWumman .

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twohotwaterbottles · 14/09/2024 22:09

Just wanted to say you sound like a really lovely mum. She will need that support. It all sounds so straight forward when we have the benefit of age and experience doesn't it, and our kids can really need that extra level of care. Good luck with all this and I hope you get some nice time in and amongst during your 'holiday'.

TheAlchemy · 14/09/2024 22:25

You sound lovely OP I’m sorry this dickhead has caused such grief on your lovely holiday. Hope you can enjoy the rest of it. Your DD is so young and you can only try your best to help her see her self worth and support her in moving on to someone worthy of her.

Pipsquiggle · 14/09/2024 22:29

@almondflake
Just another one here to say your DD sounds very young to be living the life she has - house bought by parents with a live-in BF. At this stage she would be better in a house share situation with mates.

Going out with friends who can tell her, her BF seems like a dickhead.

KievLoverTwo · 14/09/2024 22:37

I was 19 when I hooked up with a wrong ‘un and I was 25 when I finally realised what a dreadful person he was and kicked him out for the very last time (5th? 6th?).

I was quite a willful teen and for years, unbeknown to me, my mum and sister were talking about this awful relationship behind my back, and never once said “Kiev, he is very bad for you, he is not going to change.” Most of the time he was absolutely charming and he was very fun for my family to be around, but they could all see it was a toxic relationship.

Some years later, when my sister revealed to me that mum knew all along that he was an alcoholic (“you wouldn’t have believed me even if I had told you Kiev, and even if you did, you still wouldn’t have left him”), and that they had been talking about how wrong it all was, she said she asked my mum (who also unfortunately married an alcoholic, for I guess five years), “why doesn’t she leave him?” my mum said “because she hasn’t had enough yet. When she has had enough she will leave him.”

I kinda resented learning that they hadn’t warned me for quite a few years, but some 24 years down the line I see the wisdom of their inactions.

Because what happened was: something happened and it was THEN enough. Something snapped in my brain and he was suddenly repulsive. I couldn’t imagine what I was doing with him in the first place. I absolutely couldn’t visualise a future with him. I couldn’t even imagine living in the same flat when we got home. He was dead to me. I lost all feelings for him and concern in the space of about half a day.

Like your daughter, I was on holiday. A holiday I had worked my arse off to pay for, working for an evil, demanding woman, sometimes from 9am til midnight, whilst he sat on his arse for six months and claimed not to be getting calls back about jobs. He wrecked our week long holiday 2 days into it, and some of his actions on that holiday was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

For context, we had split up several times before. And as twisted as it sounds, I married him, and in hindsight I think I needed to marry him to get the stinker out of my system. The marriage lasted 1.5 years. And yes I did try to help him with his alcoholism.

Turns out he had a secret coke habit too! That penny only dropped with me about six months ago.

But, and this is a very big but - WHEN I had enough, it truly was enough - but this time forever, until the end of time. No regrets. No missing him. Nothing but wanting to keep him as far away from me as possible. Not even a tiny flicker of “what if” has infected my mind in the 24 years since.

So, sometimes teens and young adults really do have to learn from their own mistakes. And you certainly don’t want to - as a parent - be the one to talk her out of her relationship that she may feel in future years was her only love, her soulmate, the one that was meant to be.

That is a decision she must make on her own, with no influence.

So, OP, she hasn’t yet had enough. Let’s hope that time isn’t too far away.

(I found out he died of an “accidental drug overdose” six years ago. My reaction was “surprised he lived that long, it was always going to end along similar lines” - my only sadness was mental health care in its current form didn’t exist 30 years ago when he could have really done with it, with his upbringing and family he never really stood a chance)

Edit: I forgot to post the silver lining. Throughout the rest of my life I could spot a wrong ‘un within a few months and have never, ever had a serious and dysfunctional relationship since. The minute I sniff a bit of bad behavior they are out the door. Hence my partner, who I have been with for 6.5 years really is my lifelong partner, because I spent a lot of time not making the same mistake again! You pick up a sixth sense for it. Your self worth blossoms. And my mum got to see him and see how he adored me and how he would do anything for me and that “I don’t need to worry about you any more” (bc single ppl are tragic? lol!) before she died :)

screamtoabloodysigh · 14/09/2024 23:21

I've been your dd at a similar age. And I have friends who are your dd, with slight differences. I knew I was living with a tit, but I felt old enough to deal with it. Everyone knew I was living with a title, but they didn't want me to dig my heels in so they kept schtum. I knew I was leaving him 6 months before I did it. It was made easier because of all the times he was a dick in front of other people, because I was embarrassed by him and didn't want to be associated with his behaviour.

I've never made the same mistake again. Just make sure she's totally pregnancy proof until she finally leaves him.

screamtoabloodysigh · 14/09/2024 23:24

And to echo a pp. When I did meet 'the one' (in my mid 20s) he really was. 20 years and counting.

oakleaffy · 14/09/2024 23:34

Sounds like OP's Daughter is still under the thrall of this wastrel.
Hopefully she won't get too hurt, and won't have a child with him-{ that ties her to him for the next 18 or so years}

When the scales fall from her eyes, and she sees him for who he really is- then she will leave.

oakleaffy · 14/09/2024 23:38

Pipsquiggle · 14/09/2024 22:29

@almondflake
Just another one here to say your DD sounds very young to be living the life she has - house bought by parents with a live-in BF. At this stage she would be better in a house share situation with mates.

Going out with friends who can tell her, her BF seems like a dickhead.

That's incredibly lucky to have a house bought by parents at such a young age- none of the saving for a mortgage deposit- it absolves her of a ton of financial stresses- maybe the boyfriend sees it as a meal ticket - find a gf with 'rich' parents and doss of their largesse.

ClockwiseHoneysuckle · 15/09/2024 00:28

almondflake · 14/09/2024 16:31

I think this may be the last post , we've decided to deal with this when we get home .
He's mortified and embarrassed about what he's done as he should be , we shan't involve the Mexican police as the hotel don't want to get them involved either .
We said he should go home but our daughter said she wouldn't want to stay without him for whatever reason and I'd rather her be where I can see them .
So we're going to make the best of things as other family members are coming out today .
He's not allowed any alcohol and he's made apologies to the hotel who have said he'll be under surveillance for the rest of the holiday .
Thanks again for all your support and comments .

Is he going to pay you back for the cost of the damage he caused?

PenelopePitStrop · 15/09/2024 04:58

It isn’t ‘out of character’ though , is it? OK, the drunk bit is, but that was just another version of being abusive. To add to watching your Dd work all hours to pay for his hol, to add to leeching off her and you by paying no rent.

And the blaming your Dd,: emotionally abusive.

Apologised to hotel staff, ok, has he apologised to you and Dd?

I really hope you will enjoy the hol , OP, and your Dd sees him for what he is and ditches him when you get back.

Surf2Live · 15/09/2024 07:25

OP, you sound like a really great mum and making the best decisions you can in the circumstances.

I'll echo what other PP have said. She's probably not going to leave until she's had enough, and that's not yet.

You have some power here as she lives in your house. I'd be really focussed on birth control being as airtight as it can be for her so she doesn't get tied to him for 19 years. I'd be telling her loud and clear he's abusive, going to get worse and she's in danger. But then I'd be saying, no matter what happens, when she's ready to get rid that you will support her.

But I'm not sure I'd be supporting her to stay. So I'm not sure I'd allow her to have him living in that house, freeloading off her and you. That'd be my bottom line.

That may mean they live together somewhere else if she's not ready to leave him, but I really do think a bit of tough love and bottom lines here could help her in the long run. So long as she knows that no matter what he tells her, no matter how he manipulates and twists her thinking, you always love her and will always support her.

Whatever route your family takes, good luck!

Compash · 15/09/2024 11:46

Oh OP, what a rotten thing to happen - but I hope it can be the catalyst for positive change. All I can suggest is to focus on communication and compassion with your daughter - anything that can build up her self-belief so that she feels strong and supported enough to manage without him.

As it is, you're in a crucible situation - all thrown together in this intense way. It sounds like he is dependent on something, so hopefully he will be without access to it, and the effects of this will make his behaviour even worse and more obviously wrong.

At home, definitely push for anything that can chip away at his power - sending him to his parents, applying for Clare's Law, getting positive distractions for your daughter. Cut off any support you're giving to them as a couple - the holiday has left you a bit short of cash, right? 😉 Starve the little fekker out. But keep the lines of communication open with your daughter - she will pull away if she feels she's being criticised or blamed (I'm sure you don't feel this way anyway).

I'm sure you and your DH can stand strong together and deal with this. Sending best wishes. 🤗

almondflake · 15/09/2024 17:45

Thanks @Compash , I do feel that there is a bigger problem and I think that he's very good at keeping his feelings well hidden .
We need to help DD when we get home to see that this is not ok or normal behaviour .

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NiftyKoala · 15/09/2024 17:49

almondflake · 15/09/2024 17:45

Thanks @Compash , I do feel that there is a bigger problem and I think that he's very good at keeping his feelings well hidden .
We need to help DD when we get home to see that this is not ok or normal behaviour .

I think you and dh have handled this so well. Your dd is lucky to have you.

gerryk62 · 15/09/2024 17:54

Good riddance to bad rubbish
enjoy the rest of your holiday

Fishgish · 15/09/2024 17:57

We “loaned” DPs married couple friends our holiday home, they are 50ish. He drank too much (and other substances who knows) and they got in a fight, he kicked-in our bedroom door because she had locked herself in.

He said sorry to DP, but no effort made to repair or pay for repair to solid wood door which was now “busted” at lock & handle. It would have taken a lot of force, it’s older home, solid doors and proper locks on bedrooms with keys (I’ve never ever locked it myself as don’t live in fear)

He says we can use his holiday home in a beautiful place … but he disgusts me so I never will.
DP got it fixed, but I still see the repair and still makes my blood boil.

So, men don’t grow out of this behavior.

Ellejay57 · 15/09/2024 17:58

Maybe he's right? Apart from paying for the door which is amazing, it's between your daughter and him. Why is it up to you to send him home? Maybe you've spoiled your daughter too much. Stay out of it.....as long as he hasn't earned her. She won't thank you for it.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 15/09/2024 18:01

Frankly, I'd let the Mexican police have him and the British Consul can get him home (for which he will have to pay).